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    Re: Obama: Supreme Court won’t overturn health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, we all know that lying is good for the public.
    You seem to have a habit of putting words in others mouths.

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    Re: Obama: Supreme Court won’t overturn health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, we all know that lying is good for the public.
    Working hard to fulfill the daily strawman quota I see.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Obama: Supreme Court won’t overturn health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I also sincerely doubt you have the credentials to challenge his understanding of the Constitution, at least from what I've seen of your posts.
    Ah, the personal dig. Gotta love it.

    I only hope that if the tables were turned and this was a law you gentlemen agreed with you would be equally passionate in your critique of the President's political rhetoric to the people. If that is the case then I can respect you for your lack of bias in your opinion even if our opinions aren't in total agreement, if this is just partisanship for you two then I can't say I respect a double standard in that case.
    I wouldn't care if it was GWB saying the same thing, I'd still think him an idiot for saying it. Would you defend him in the same manner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    He could have said something that doesn't fly in the face of his supposed reputation as a Constitutional Law expert, and barring that, something that isn't falsified by a five-minute Google search.
    It can be ruled as constitutional in a very limited court opinion like Roe.
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    Re: Obama: Supreme Court won’t overturn health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    It can be ruled as constitutional in a very limited court opinion like Roe.
    It might be, but it doesn't have anything to do with what I was getting at.
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    Re: Obama: Supreme Court won’t overturn health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Ah, the personal dig. Gotta love it.

    I wouldn't care if it was GWB saying the same thing, I'd still think him an idiot for saying it. Would you defend him in the same manner?
    Don't play the victim, you put forward a challenge to his understanding of the Constitution and I responded by questioning your credentials. If you're going to have an opinion, expect someone to challenge your basis for it and if you're going to have the opinion that someone's understanding of the Constitution is lacking, its only fair and relevant to ask what your understanding of it is, after all if you have no understanding of than you're opinion is baseless. If you have a massive understanding of, there may be something to your opinion.

    But I still doubt you have enough understanding of Constitutional Law to claim Barack Obama has a severely limited understanding of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It might be, but it doesn't have anything to do with what I was getting at.
    Sure it does since the law can pass constitutional muster then its constitutional. It being wise is a different matter.
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    Re: Obama: Supreme Court won’t overturn health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Sure it does since the law can pass constitutional muster then its constitutional. It being wise is a different matter.
    Did you read the thread?
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    Re: Obama: Supreme Court won’t overturn health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    if you're going to have the opinion that someone's understanding of the Constitution is lacking,
    If you think what he said shows ANY understanding of the constitution, well, that's your issue.

    Thanks for not answering the question asking if you'd defend GWB if he said the same thing. I kinda figured as much.
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    Re: Obama: Supreme Court won’t overturn health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    If you think what he said shows ANY understanding of the constitution, well, that's your issue.

    Thanks for not answering the question asking if you'd defend GWB if he said the same thing. I kinda figured as much.
    You're being selective in your reasoning. You're focusing on a few quotes relating to his healthcare debate and ignore, 12 YEARS of teaching Constitutional law. That's your issue, that you think a few quotes outweigh everything else about this man's history, education and experience. Tell me how that works?

    And sorry for missing that second point, yes I would defend GWB if he was in this situation.

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