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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    in the past ,there was neither gun nor this kind of madness


    You kidding? I'd suggest you look up the history and use of European rapiers. In summary, they were a "gentleman's" accessory. They were commonly used in duels as men in the 18th century France and England had to defend their honor and would kill each other in the street, or in formal duels. Swords were used throughout most of history until the late 18th century for butchering innocents, peasants, etc. In fact, human kind has been butchering each other in various ways since recorded history.
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    huh?

    humans have been killing humans since there have been humans.... and guns have been around quite some time now ( since the 12th century).
    hell, this nation was founded by the gun.
    I would say taken and not founded. I think the difference is important.

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I would say taken and not founded. I think the difference is important.
    it's both ,actually.

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

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    I do believe the current congressional investigation isn't about Trayvon but rather racial profiling. School shootings had their moment in the Congressional sun with the VT shootings, you and Maggie must remember them? Where was the outcry for not facing other social issues then? None? Really? Perhaps that is because those who like to rail on these things were not uncomfortable. Not my ox being gored, no need for my outrage.

    While I suppose some 'lily white asses' if I may quote Maggie, are upset so much attention is being given this tragic event in Florida I predict in the end as much gets done as the Congressional hearings for VT did for school shootings.

    All shades of ass would agree, a Congressional hearing, be it an all male panel to discuss religious and financial issues about birth control, a hearing on Wall Street Bonuses, or on racial profiling isn't going to do much but inflame a few ranters on all sides of this mess.

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post


    You kidding? I'd suggest you look up the history and use of European rapiers. In summary, they were a "gentleman's" accessory. They were commonly used in duels as men in the 18th century France and England had to defend their honor and would kill each other in the street, or in formal duels. Swords were used throughout most of history until the late 18th century for butchering innocents, peasants, etc. In fact, human kind has been butchering each other in various ways since recorded history.


    i am aware of the history and the rapiers ,ockham but what I mean is that now a gun is more dangerous and common among the society and even high school children that have no idea on how to be gentle have a gun and you see what happens then
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post


    i am aware of the history and the rapiers ,ockham but what I mean is that now a gun is more dangerous and common among the society and even high school children that have no idea on how to be gentle have a gun and you see what happens then
    guns are less common in the us than they were in our distant past.... there was a time when near everyone had a gun of some sort.

    the problem isn't the gun.. it's the mentality of those whom wield them to create tragedies and massacres...it's a mentality that we feed, enable , and coddle.

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Where are the Congressional hearings on this violence?
    Let me google that for you
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    There were, by most estimates, 500 Nazis in Charlottesville. One of them went homicidal. Not all Nazis are violent extremists. You are trying to rationalize your hatred and it's simply not rational.
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    as I noted, its better that 10 nutjobs get guns than one good person be wrongly disarmed.

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    way to fail buddy. way to fail. I clicked your link. not one of the sites listed on the first couple pages referencing anything with congress. Just repeated articles about colorado and nevada voting within their states. Or someone proposing a law within those states. You should really follow those links before you post them.

    So I'll ask it as well.

    Where are the congressional hearings on this violence?
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    it's both ,actually.
    I think we're founded on a certain ideaology and not on the gun. The gun merely played a role, and contributed to a mythology that we love. But it was not the founding principle we were founded on.

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Ok...so what is the solution where guns are involved in school shootings? Requirement to pass through a scanner before entering the building? Kind of like TSA with pat downs?

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