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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Side not: this shooter is Asian. The VT shooter was Asian. There was one more, I forgot the event.

    what's going on? is this just coincidence..or is this a reflection of the extreme pressure being put on Asian kids to do well in school...and some just loosing it?
    Bout time someone made this about race. Now maybe politicans/liberals will care
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Bout time someone made this about race. Now maybe politicans/liberals will care
    Not race, attitude. Approach.

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Right, so until the democratic leadership tells you its ok to support taking action to prevent these types of shootings, which again are occurring more and more each year, then you dont think anything should be done about them.

    Also how is self defense controversial? Do you really think people should just roll over and die when someone decides to beat them to death?
    Huh? What I asked is what would you have them do?

    IMO, short of banning guns, which would be unconstitutional, there isn't much that can be done on the federal level about school shootings.

    Self defense in and of itself isn't controversial. What is controversial, however, is Florida's stand your ground law which eliminates one of the key requirements of the traditional self defense justification.
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, I would like to add that your attempt to justify what you originally wrote fails miserably. Obviously you were trying to say that the students, sheeplike, lined up to be executed after they'd been told they were going to be killed. But you just made that up.


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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

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    It isn't that I don't enjoy a good rant but you have ANY stats to back-up, 'these types of shootings, which again are occurring more and more each year' ?

    We maybe hearing about more and more but is there any proof the frequency is increasing?

    Facts say the rate is decreasing and you are as likely to be killed by someone you know as a random or serial killer.

    Not real sure just how the feds, the dems, the repubs, the moon people can stop this sort of gunman in a liberal democracy, pretty sure I won't like it if they try.

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Muciti-
    It isn't that I don't enjoy a good rant but you have ANY stats to back-up, 'these types of shootings, which again are occurring more and more each year' ?

    We maybe hearing about more and more but is there any proof the frequency is increasing?

    Facts say the rate is decreasing and you are as likely to be killed by someone you know as a random or serial killer.

    Not real sure just how the feds, the dems, the repubs, the moon people can stop this sort of gunman in a liberal democracy, pretty sure I won't like it if they try.
    2005- 2 shootings
    2006- 6 shootings
    2007- 7 shootings
    2008- 9 shootings
    2009- 10 shootings
    2010- 11 shootings
    2011- 8 shootings
    2012- 6 shootings (only 3 months in)

    And what is really bothersome is these is nowhere else in the world are school shootings this prominent. If you look at Europe there were 9 shooting combined since 2005. And that is in all of Europe. We beat that almost yearly in just the US. South America, Asia, and Australia combined for 5 school shooting in that same period. 3 entire continents. The United States, one country, has 12 times the shootings as 3 entire continents.
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Furthermore, for publicity sake. How many people do you think know what happened at Chardon High school? That happened 6 weeks ago. Or the shooting at the Epis. school in Florida? That was less than a month ago. That happened after Trayvon in the same state. You dont see people giving a crap about that.
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I have respect for people with integrity and honor. I am sorry to have been disappointed. Have a nice day.
    I guess you don't have much self respect, then? Because you very clearly stated as fact something that just wasn't true.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    2005- 2 shootings
    2006- 6 shootings
    2007- 7 shootings
    2008- 9 shootings
    2009- 10 shootings
    2010- 11 shootings
    2011- 8 shootings
    2012- 6 shootings (only 3 months in)

    And what is really bothersome is these is nowhere else in the world are school shootings this prominent. If you look at Europe there were 9 shooting combined since 2005. And that is in all of Europe. We beat that almost yearly in just the US. South America, Asia, and Australia combined for 5 school shooting in that same period. 3 entire continents. The United States, one country, has 12 times the shootings as 3 entire continents.
    Are you going to answer the question? What is it that you think the federal government can or should do to prevent schools shootings?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I guess you don't have much self respect, then? Because you very clearly stated as fact something that just wasn't true.


    Right, why discuss topics when you can whine at posters with inane, "gotcha" type dishonest cackling..... Dismissed.
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