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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    For the record, I do have an agenda. I'd like to see much less shooting in schools. They are becoming much more commonplace.


    We share the same agenda, but my guess is wildly different solutions.
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Another JUST WOW moment for me!
    I have never been in a forum that moves so fast and has so many tangents ready to launch. Everyone has their favorite drum to beat. Very selective in their umbrage, not so in their choice of words.
    The bottom line is this wasn't grade/high school kids so the 'if it saves jess one chil'' is misplaced. Seems some want the replies to stay on topic only if the post is directed directly at them, veer off attacking the President is ok I guess.
    If Maggie can bear one more comment, yes if you had just posted the breaking news with a 'when will this end' or 'I can't stand this continuing violence' that would be one thing, but to ask when Congress will address this? It has and nothing was done, about typical for Congress no matter which party chairs the committees.
    Now that some of the facts are trickling out the adult gunman killings in a private adult education facility, it has little to do with being in 'Kalifornica' as most states allow a BUSINESS to regulate concealed carry on their property and a vast majority of businesses routinely post NO weapons signs. His weapon wasn't an AK but a simple pistol, legal in EVERY state in this grand Union.
    The place wasn't targeted as a Christian place but yet another disgruntled student. Not sure just what can be done in such a case, he had a clean record, he was as legal to purchase a pistol as anyone else.
    Often someone will say if there had been an armed CCW citizen this wouldn't have happened. Tests and trials show most often the CCW can't draw cleanly in a face to face confrontation and loses. The CCW under stress, that adrenaline surge thing, can't put two anywhere on target, BIG difference standing on a oneway range vs amid the chaos of a real situation. Even in very CCW friendly states the odds of a CCW person being within range to become involved in such a scenario is like collecting hen's teeth in a desert.
    I suppose Congress could hold yet another hearing on gun violence, gun bans, and mental stability but I don't think anyone will like the results.
    I started to write another post about how this thread started, why I was offended, yada yada yada, but I deleted it.

    I don't disagree with much of what you said and am not going to comment on your opinion of my opening comment. I've said my piece here already.

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I could not disagree more. Much more should be done than just hoping people stop shooting up schools.
    we can't put metal detectors and EVERY entrance to EVERY school.

    the fact is that, considering the number of college students in the USA compared to the number of college students who get shot every year on campus, college shootings are still pretty damn low frequency occurances.

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Pertaining to colleges gun should be allowed, imo.

    The moment students see some ass shooting at people, they'll draw their guns and drop him.

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Pertaining to colleges gun should be allowed, imo.

    The moment students see some ass shooting at people, they'll draw their guns and drop him.
    that only works if EVERYONE at college has a gun.

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Obama's aid asked the reporter to ask him about it. Or do you believe Obama was that prepared with his answer?


    You are right, I have "no clue" what your reaction to obama was, it's been, all but silent.
    I can find no evidence your claim is accurate about the reporter. Pardon me if I do not take your word for it.

    And there we have it, now you have had to admit you are making unfounded claims about my feigned outrage. Hint: not commenting is not the same as condoning.
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    We share the same agenda, but my guess is wildly different solutions.
    What you got in mind?
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I can find no evidence your claim is accurate about the reporter. Pardon me if I do not take your word for it.

    Because in the years you've known me, you can point to how many times I've lied? Much respect back, brother.



    And there we have it, now you have had to admit you are making unfounded claims about my feigned outrage. Hint: not commenting is not the same as condoning.

    Your outrage in this thread was feigned. Pardon me for not taking your word for it.
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    we can't put metal detectors and EVERY entrance to EVERY school.

    the fact is that, considering the number of college students in the USA compared to the number of college students who get shot every year on campus, college shootings are still pretty damn low frequency occurances.
    School shooting are pretty high in frequencies. You for the last couple weeks having been throwing hissy fits over this Trayvon Martin death. That was one kid who was possibly killed in self defense. But 7 people die here and it's just hope it goes away on its own? When these attacks are increasing in frequency every year? You are really starting to strike me as the type that only cares when you are told to by the media.
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You guys?? Don't be ridiculous. If Congress sees fit to hold hearings on Trayvon Martin, it's a legitimate to wonder where they are on these school shootings.

    Don't you think?? Or don't you give a ****?

    If a liberal had posted this, would you have thought the same thing? I had to add something of my own or I couldn't have posted. It's you who can't wait to take shots at people you overall disagree with -- not me.
    Since mass school shootings are NOT rare and given the victims truly, absolutely innocent victims, there would be MORE justification for hearings - than the rarity of a neighborhood Latino shooting and African-American during a fight between them.

    BUT it is too early to know if the President and/or Congress with speak/act or not.

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