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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    But I found your evasions right off the bat. Just sayin'.


    What evasions? your feigned outrage is noted. Does this make you better than those you just chided?
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Bro, I missed your outburst over obama " using a ****ing tragedy to score cheap ****ing political points"..... Just sayin...
    Huh... I just did a search and I also must have missed it. Funny that......
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post

    If a liberal had posted this, .
    Must be the Lamestream Media's "War on Conservatives!"

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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I could not disagree more. Much more should be done than just hoping people stop shooting up schools.


    Don't even try bringing that discussion up, you'll get branded as insensitive and trying to use a tragedy for an agenda....
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Another JUST WOW moment for me!

    I have never been in a forum that moves so fast and has so many tangents ready to launch. Everyone has their favorite drum to beat. Very selective in their umbrage, not so in their choice of words.

    The bottom line is this wasn't grade/high school kids so the 'if it saves jess one chil'' is misplaced. Seems some want the replies to stay on topic only if the post is directed directly at them, veer off attacking the President is ok I guess.

    If Maggie can bear one more comment, yes if you had just posted the breaking news with a 'when will this end' or 'I can't stand this continuing violence' that would be one thing, but to ask when Congress will address this? It has and nothing was done, about typical for Congress no matter which party chairs the committees.

    Now that some of the facts are trickling out the adult gunman killings in a private adult education facility, it has little to do with being in 'Kalifornica' as most states allow a BUSINESS to regulate concealed carry on their property and a vast majority of businesses routinely post NO weapons signs. His weapon wasn't an AK but a simple pistol, legal in EVERY state in this grand Union.

    The place wasn't targeted as a Christian place but yet another disgruntled student. Not sure just what can be done in such a case, he had a clean record, he was as legal to purchase a pistol as anyone else.

    Often someone will say if there had been an armed CCW citizen this wouldn't have happened. Tests and trials show most often the CCW can't draw cleanly in a face to face confrontation and loses. The CCW under stress, that adrenaline surge thing, can't put two anywhere on target, BIG difference standing on a oneway range vs amid the chaos of a real situation. Even in very CCW friendly states the odds of a CCW person being within range to become involved in such a scenario is like collecting hen's teeth in a desert.

    I suppose Congress could hold yet another hearing on gun violence, gun bans, and mental stability but I don't think anyone will like the results.
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What evasions? your feigned outrage is noted. Does this make you better than those you just chided?
    What feigned outrage? That I responded to different situations differently? That I did not publicly chide Obama for answering a question? That you use this killing to attack Obama who had nothing to do with it? That you have no ****ing clue what my reaction to how Obama answered the question since I did not comment, and had been staying away from anything involved with that story from before Obama was even asked that question? Good job with random made up accusations Rev. Keep up the good work.
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Another JUST WOW moment for me!

    I have never been in a forum that moves so fast and has so many tangents ready to launch. Everyone has their favorite drum to beat. Very selective in their umbrage, not so in their choice of words.

    The bottom line is this wasn't grade/high school kids so the 'if it saves jess one chil'' is misplaced. Seems some want the replies to stay on topic only if the post is directly directly at them, veer off attacking the President is ok I guess.

    If Maggie can bear one more comment, yes if you had just posted the breaking news with a 'when will this end' or 'I can't stand this continuing violence' that would be one thing, but to ask when Congress will address this? It has and nothing was done, about typical for Congress no matter which party chairs the committees.

    Now that some of the facts are trickling out the adult gunman killed in a private adult education facility, it has little to do with being in 'Kalifornica' as most states allow a BUSINESS to regulate concealed carry on their property and a vast majority of businesses routinely post NO weapons signs. His weapon wasn't an AK but a simple pistol, legal in EVERY state in this grand Union.

    The place wasn't targeted as a Christian place but yet another disgruntled student. Not sure just what can be done in such a case, he had a clean record, he was as legal to purchase a pistol as anyone else.

    Often someone will say if there had been an armed CCW citizen this wouldn't have happened. Tests and trials show most often the CCW can't draw cleanly in a face to face confrontation and loses. The CCW under stress, that adrenaline surge thing, can't put two anywhere on target, BIG difference standing on a oneway range vs amid the chaos of a real situation. Even in very CCW friendly states the odds of a CCW person being within range to become involved in such a scenario is like collecting hen's teeth in a desert.

    I suppose Congress could hold yet another hearing on gun violence, gun bans, and mental stability but I don't think anyone will like the results.


    Careful! You might get slaughtered for turning this into a gun rights thread.
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What feigned outrage? That I responded to different situations differently? That I did not publicly chide Obama for answering a question? That you use this killing to attack Obama who had nothing to do with it? That you have no ****ing clue what my reaction to how Obama answered the question since I did not comment, and had been staying away from anything involved with that story from before Obama was even asked that question? Good job with random made up accusations Rev. Keep up the good work.

    Obama's aid asked the reporter to ask him about it. Or do you believe Obama was that prepared with his answer?


    You are right, I have "no clue" what your reaction to obama was, it's been, all but silent.
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Often someone will say if there had been an armed CCW citizen this wouldn't have happened. Tests and trials show most often the CCW can't draw cleanly in a face to face confrontation and loses. The CCW under stress, that adrenaline surge thing, can't put two anywhere on target, BIG difference standing on a oneway range vs amid the chaos of a real situation. Even in very CCW friendly states the odds of a CCW person being within range to become involved in such a scenario is like collecting hen's teeth in a desert.
    This is not the wild wild west movies. We are also not talking about a tactical murderer here, using military training, cover and movement to kill people. Of the little interviews I've seen in the news reports, the guy stood straight up and it was reported "calmly shot at targets". Granted, you have a point that under stress, shooting a handgun for those not used to doing such a thing in a life & death environment does effect accuracy. Yet, I'd certainly be willing to have a small chance to stop a deranged shooter in a school vs. no chance.
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    Re: 5 dead, suspect in custody in classroom shooting at Oikos University in Californi

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Don't even try bringing that discussion up, you'll get branded as insensitive and trying to use a tragedy for an agenda....
    For the record, I do have an agenda. I'd like to see much less shooting in schools. They are becoming much more commonplace.
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