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    Re: Obama warns 'unelected' Supreme Court against striking down health law

    Bah. As to the other part of his ludicrous statement, that the Supreme Court overturning a law passed by a "strong majority" of Congress would be "unprecedented" and "extraordinary," well, that fell down on the very first statute I even checked: The Violence Against Women Act (1994). Got 384 votes in the House and 95 votes in the Senate. THAT, folks, is a "strong majority," and it was struck down.

    I'm sure that's not the only one in the other ~50 statutes struck down over the last 30 years. I haven't looked, but what kind of a margin do you suppose the Child Pornography Prevention Act (1996) passed by? My guess is not small.

    Some "constitutional scholar," he.
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    Re: Obama warns 'unelected' Supreme Court against striking down health law

    I have a question for our President. In Arizona SB1070 (a illegal immigration bill), and similar bills in other States were passed/approved by elected officials. Yet, the DOJ has taken the State to court over the bill being unconstitutional or not within State authority. If SCOTUS strikes it down its judicial activism according to Obama. Yet, if a State passes a law he doesn't like, he wants the Federal Courts to strike the law because its unconstitutional. Who is trying to use the courts to set policies? I don't see how he can have it both ways.
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    Re: Obama warns 'unelected' Supreme Court against striking down health law

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I have a question for our President. In Arizona SB1070 (a illegal immigration bill), and similar bills in other States were passed/approved by elected officials. Yet, the DOJ has taken the State to court over the bill being unconstitutional or not within State authority. If SCOTUS strikes it down its judicial activism according to Obama. Yet, if a State passes a law he doesn't like, he wants the Federal Courts to strike the law because its unconstitutional. Who is trying to use the courts to set policies? I don't see how he can have it both ways.
    Just more evidence that "judicial activism" today is little more than a buzz-phrase.
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    Re: Obama warns 'unelected' Supreme Court against striking down health law

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    President Obama, employing his strongest language to date on the Supreme Court review of the federal health care overhaul, cautioned the court Monday against overturning the law -- while repeatedly saying he's "confident" it will be upheld.

    The president spoke at length about the case at a joint press conference with the leaders of Mexico and Canada. The president, adopting what he described as the language of conservatives who fret about judicial activism, questioned how an "unelected group of people" could overturn a law approved by Congress.

    I guess he for got the Constitution establishes one federal court: the Supreme Court.
    Obama's comments on this were dumbfounding. He made it abundantly clear that he has no concept of constitutional law or what judicial activism is (and what it isn't).

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    Re: Obama warns 'unelected' Supreme Court against striking down health law

    Its amusing how laughably inconsistent people are when it comes to nonsense "like judicial activism", when the truth is that they simply don't like the decision. Its wrong for Obama to encourage such behavior.

    I'll say this: regardless of whether I agree with the supreme court's decision or not, they are well within their rights to issue a ruling on the legality of the health care bill.

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    Re: Obama warns 'unelected' Supreme Court against striking down health law

    I was just getting ready to post those numbers. When an act of congress fundamentally changes how our society works, I wish it wasn't a partisan vote. Take these for instance, I don't agree with the acts, but I am happier with the voting:

    Social Security:
    Senate:
    Democrats 60 – 1 – 8
    Republicans 16 – 5 – 4
    Other 1 – 0 – 0
    Total 77 – 6 – 12

    House:
    Democrats 284 – 15 – 20
    Republicans 81 – 15 – 4 – 2 (2 guys were present…and so it begins)
    Other 7 – 3 – 1
    Total 372 – 33 – 25 – 2


    Medicare:
    Senate:
    Democrats 57 – 7 – 4
    Republicans 13 – 17 – 2
    Total 70 – 24 – 6

    House:
    Democrats 237 – 48 – 8
    Republicans 70 – 68 -2
    Total 307 – 116 - 10


    Patriot Act:
    Senate – 98 – 1 – 1, with a Democrat Nay and a Democrat Not Voting.
    House
    Republican 211 – 3 – 5 so 5 no votes
    Deomcrat 145 – 62 – 4
    Independent 1 – 1 – 0
    Total 357-66-9
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    Re: Obama warns 'unelected' Supreme Court against striking down health law

    The best thing about Obama's term, and Obamacare especially, is that it has finally put to rest any doubt that left wingers have a complete disdain, utter hatred really, for the Constitution as a whole. It is nothing more than a nuisance that they seek to destroy once and for all.

    I see great distress in the future of this nation over that document. It is going to get supremely ugly.

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    Re: Obama warns 'unelected' Supreme Court against striking down health law

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The best thing about Obama's term, and Obamacare especially, is that it has finally put to rest any doubt that left wingers have a complete disdain, utter hatred really, for the Constitution as a whole. It is nothing more than a nuisance that they seek to destroy once and for all.

    I see great distress in the future of this nation over that document. It is going to get supremely ugly.
    Then I guess you would say the same thing about the conservative Heritage Foundation and all the Republican politicians who supported the mandate ... before Obama signed on to it?
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    Re: Obama warns 'unelected' Supreme Court against striking down health law

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    Then I guess you would say the same thing about the conservative Heritage Foundation and all the Republican politicians who supported the mandate ... before Obama signed on to it?
    I would say that the Heritage Foundation and others who support that mandate on a FEDERAL level...if they did...were just as wrong as the Democracts.

    I wouldn't say they have the same utter disdain or hatred for the Constitution that the Democrats have because they don't constantly combat the Constitution as the Democrats do.
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    Re: Obama warns 'unelected' Supreme Court against striking down health law

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Then I guess you would say the same thing about the conservative Heritage Foundation and all the Republican politicians who supported the mandate ... before Obama signed on to it?
    How many times does it need to be said that the mandate is a compromise position issued to counter full on medicare for everyone---which is would NEVER pass. The problem is once you examine what happens when you issue the mandate is you eventually slide into medicare as more and more people are forced out of insurance by the government--which looks to be the results from the Affordable Health Care Act.

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