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    Re: Police Are Using Phone Tracking as a Routine Tool

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    Re: Police Are Using Phone Tracking as a Routine Tool

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    While that's true, it seems Republicans and conservatives didn't have a problem with all this during the Bush years. I remember many conservatives posting "Well, if you haven't done anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about.".

    That type of mentality has just rolled over again and again. I doubt we will see much change even if a GOP is elected. Once you give the power to authorities to do this type of thing, they either won't give it up or they will ask for more.

    I'll agree it's sad, but this seed was planted over a decade ago and is blossoming into what we see now.
    It wasn't right then. It isn't right when any party does these things.
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    Re: Police Are Using Phone Tracking as a Routine Tool

    they shouldn't be allowed to do this without a warrant.

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    Re: Police Are Using Phone Tracking as a Routine Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/us...=MYWAY&ei=5065



    Looks to me that police departments are getting mighty bold, using lame excuses of safety and public good to justify their searching through people's phones. This is going to get out of hand if their aren't taken to court over it.

    Judging by the article its not just law enforcement trying to squash your privacy rights its also private companies aiding the government in squashing your privacy rights. I think we as consumers should boycott these companies or at least the products that allow these companies to the government in infringing on our privacy rights.
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    Re: Police Are Using Phone Tracking as a Routine Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/us...=MYWAY&ei=5065

    Looks to me that police departments are getting mighty bold, using lame excuses of safety and public good to justify their searching through people's phones. This is going to get out of hand if their aren't taken to court over it.
    Using a cellphone's GPS to track someone? I have no problem with that.

    You can legally do that -- why shouldn't law enforcement be able to do the same thing?

    http://cellphonetrackers.org/
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    Re: Police Are Using Phone Tracking as a Routine Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Using a cellphone's GPS to track someone? I have no problem with that.

    You can legally do that -- why shouldn't law enforcement be able to do the same thing?

    Cell phone tracking | Cell phone GPS tracker
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    Re: Police Are Using Phone Tracking as a Routine Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/us...=MYWAY&ei=5065



    Looks to me that police departments are getting mighty bold, using lame excuses of safety and public good to justify their searching through people's phones. This is going to get out of hand if their aren't taken to court over it.
    They been doing this for years. It started under Bush and when the iPhone became "popular".. since it is so easy to hack.
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    Re: Police Are Using Phone Tracking as a Routine Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It is reversable, however, it's unlikely to happen. For it to happen, there needs to be a populace that holds it's politicians accountable for what they do. That's not happening now, because hyperpartisan politics is the norm.

    People would rather keep voting in "their side", rather than letting the other side come in and change things. all the while "their side" continues the norm of eroding freedoms for the sake of security. And if the other side goes up against a candidate on that issue, the incumbant just says "See, look they want us to be weak so we get attacked by <insert scary group here>".
    This would have been a great comment if not for the one you posted just prior to it.

    While that's true, it seems Republicans and conservatives didn't have a problem with all this during the Bush years. I remember many conservatives posting "Well, if you haven't done anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about.".
    I agree with you that voters largely vote for their side and anything that goes wrong they will blame the other side. Just like you did at first.
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    Re: Police Are Using Phone Tracking as a Routine Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    They been doing this for years. It started under Bush and when the iPhone became "popular".. since it is so easy to hack.


    According to you, phone technology was never used by the police/government against private citizens before Bush. Yeah, sure.
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    Re: Police Are Using Phone Tracking as a Routine Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/us...=MYWAY&ei=5065



    Looks to me that police departments are getting mighty bold, using lame excuses of safety and public good to justify their searching through people's phones. This is going to get out of hand if their aren't taken to court over it.
    We have common ground here. What police departments are doing violates the 4th Amendment against unreasonable searches. This is one of the reasons I refuse to buy a cell phone. It's not that I have anything to hide. I don't. But my privacy is none of the government's damn business.
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