Thread: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan

How are you imposing your religious views on someone else? If you've got booze you go to another line. If I want to buy cigarettes, there's only one line for that, and if I have more than 10 items I can't use certain lines.

see above. there are religious obligations to drink wine, in Judaism.

and yet, I would be discriminated against due to my religious views, at this store.

Originally Posted by Thunder

Jews are REQUIRED to drink wine, for Passover.

that means that if there are two lines at the store, one which is Halaal and only has one person and the other which is all-inclusive but has 50 people on it, I can't use the shorter line due to my religious beliefs.

that...is a form of discrimination.

It's no more a form of discrimination than forcing them to use a different line if they have more than 10 bottles of wine.

At any rate, if there's that kind of backup at the checkouts, you know what they do? They summon more employees to act as cashiers. The floor manager will also open up and operate a register. Your objection is a non-starter.

Originally Posted by MaggieD

You're right about one thing.

I'll bet you go to the 10-items-or-less line with 13 things, too.

With 13? Yes, I will go through the 10 items or less line as long as I am not much over. Mainly so I don't inconvenice the other customers who only have a few items. I couldn't care less about the employee - they're there to provide a service to the customers, and those customers are paying for the service to be provided.

Originally Posted by Thunder

allowing someone to NOT work on one of their most important religous holidays, is one thing.

actually having your religious views imposed on someone else's business, is very different.

Halaal-only checkout lines? that's pretty ridiculous.

Nobody's imposing a damn thing.

The employee asked for something from her employer and got it.

It's none of your business. If you don't like it, don't shop there.

Originally Posted by Thunder

allowing someone to NOT work on one of their most important religous holidays, is one thing.

actually having your religious views imposed on someone else's business, is very different.

Halaal-only checkout lines? that's pretty ridiculous.

Okay...let's try to explain my thinking, perhaps it will get through.

I am not Christian, and in fact understand Xmas is a holiday made up to incorporate a Pagan population in Celtic Gaul long ago. Likely the Christ was born in spring (given the new born lambs, amongst other supposed "Facts"), but I respect the beliefs my employees hold, and would rather treat them respectfully than feel like an A$$, even though this often led to me working the holiday for them, or scheduling non-christians that day.

This is certainly not a matter of what You, or anyone considers important, it concerns the cashier and the company. If anything, yu come off as less than Christ-like by making a stink.

I'm not taking Thunder seriously, he has a consistency problem.

Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan

I'm not taking Thunder seriously, he has a consistency problem.

Well, if you think about it, not really. He comes down against religious considerations consistently . . . first, the employer must accommodate the employee. Now, roles arguably being reversed, the employer shouldn't accommodate the employee.

So, yeah, he contradicts himself, but either way, he wants to squash the religious concerns of whomever.

Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan

I'm not taking Thunder seriously, he has a consistency problem.

actually no, I don't.

setting up a Halaal-only check out line, may infact discriminate against non-Muslim shoppers.

if that line has only one person, and the other line has 12, the Jewish person can't buy his religiously-required wine on the Halaal-only line. that is discrimination.

its very simply boys & girls: if you DON'T want to touch pork or alcohol containing packages, DON'T work at a non-Halaal store.

Originally Posted by Harshaw

Well, if you think about it, not really. He comes down against religious considerations consistently . . . first, the employer must accommodate the employee. Now, roles arguably being reversed, the employer shouldn't accommodate the employee.

So, yeah, he contradicts himself, but either way, he wants to squash the religious concerns of whomever.

Okay, in that respect you have a point. He consistently shifts positions in order to serve an agenda.

Originally Posted by buck

I realize this makes me a jerk, but I would go to whichever checkout line was the shortest - even hers. I suspect her line will probably be the shortest, since many people with pork or alcohol would not.

Agreed, this does point to some level of failure in compassion (jerk)...but this is a free country, and there are many who would do the same.

Just go to any walmart for proof