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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    give him saturday off instead of Sunday.

    or if they're closed on Sundays, let him take off Saturday..and make up the hours the rest of the week.

    my Uncle is an Orthodox Jew, who would leave his city job every Friday at noon.

    to compensate for this, he stayed an hour late M-Th.

    problem solved.
    What if it was an orthodox Jew who didn't want to handle unclean pork products?
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    I can see it now. Three lines open, staffed by a devout Catholic, A devout Muslim, and a Brahmin Hindu, as Wegman's can no longer refuse hiring based on religious preferences, and its impact on the job.

    One line "No Birth Control". Next line "No alcohol or pork". Last line "No meat at all".

    Looks like you need three carts, or you need to make three trips in and out of the store just to buy all that you want

    Wegman's must now comply to all religious requests made by its employees with regard to the customers they cannot serve.

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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    give him saturday off instead of Sunday.

    or if they're closed on Sundays, let him take off Saturday..and make up the hours the rest of the week.

    my Uncle is an Orthodox Jew, who would leave his city job every Friday at noon.

    to compensate for this, he stayed an hour late M-Th.

    problem solved.
    Why should the employer have to shuffle his schedule -- make special arrangements -- to cater to an Orthodox Jew's religious beliefs? Shouldn't the employer just say, "look, you work like everyone else or you work somewhere else?"
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    I can see it now. Three lines open, staffed by a devout Catholic, A devout Muslim, and a Brahmin Hindu, as Wegman's can no longer refuse hiring based on religious preferences, and its impact on the job.

    One line "No Birth Control". Next line "No alcohol or pork". Last line "No meat at all".

    Looks like you need three carts, or you need to make three trips in and out of the store just to buy all that you want

    Wegman's must now comply to all religious requests made by its employees with regard to the customers they cannot serve.
    Crazy, right? Next thing you know they'll be hiring the handicapped.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Crazy, right? Next thing you know they'll be hiring the handicapped.
    While we have seen some businesses hire the clearly handicapped for certain types of work, we have also seen lawsuits where a handicapped was not hired because the employer felt the handicap was too limiting, and the potential employee sued. Not sure of all the ways the courts have ruled, but I believe it is the heart of the issue with Wegmans. At some point they will find themselves caught up with government where they have opened this door. My preference would be that it should all be up to the customers to decide if they want to spend money here or there, or not.

    If a store ends up with lagging service because of all their employee accommodations, then folks buying elsewhere should be the only penalty. And if a business does not want to mess with the special religious needs of its employees, it shouldn't have to. But we know government won't let it be.

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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Wegman's must now comply to all religious requests made by its employees with regard to the customers they cannot serve.
    Why must they now do that?
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why must they now do that?
    Litigation. Or perhaps you can explain how Wegman's can refuse a request by a Catholic employee to not ring up birth control, such that they may fire that employee if such request is not honored, and the employee makes it an issue ? Or claims mental suffering ? Do you think Wegman's has the legal standing now to discriminate between such religion-based requests ? Explain. Thanks.

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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Litigation. Or perhaps you can explain how Wegman's can refuse a request by a Catholic employee to not ring up birth control, such that they may fire that employee if such request is not honored, and the employee makes it an issue ? Or claims mental suffering ? Do you think Wegman's has the legal standing now to discriminate between such religion-based requests ? Explain. Thanks.
    Wegman's can just end this policy if they don't want to extend it to other individuals. Pretty simple, really. Or they can show that a specific request they don't want to accommodate doesn't fall into the category of "reasonable accommodation".

    Granted, I can't see why they would fulfill this request while denying other requests of an identical nature. I bet they'd even make the same accommodation for an employee who has a shellfish allergy and prefers to not handle products containing shellfish.
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Why should the employer have to shuffle his schedule -- make special arrangements -- to cater to an Orthodox Jew's religious beliefs? Shouldn't the employer just say, "look, you work like everyone else or you work somewhere else?"
    no need to shuffle anything. he simply worked an hour late with no compensation, while others did overtime with him.

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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    no need to shuffle anything. he simply worked an hour late with no compensation, while others did overtime with him.
    Is he salaried?
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