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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    No issue with it at all. I also have no issue with the business requiring these employees to take care of customers with pork or alcohol either.

    It's a private business. This is, and should be, entirely their decision.

    Now if this was government-mandated, then I would have a HUGE problem with it.

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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    I personally would not want to do this for the girl as a matter of policy. Put her to work stocking shelves or something else that doen't require handling merchandize. Work in the pharmacy or produce department. Work supervising that self-checkout area. Put on a pair of latex gloves. I just wouldn't want to put this on the customers. What this store does is their business though.

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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Didn't read the whole thread, but if I were an employer with a small staff and a limited product line I can see making small adjustments to accomodate an employee, especially if that employee had other valuable assets for me and my business, but I have to say, Wegman's is no small employer, and their product is vast. They're a grocery store for crying out loud. I Love Wegman's and ONLY shop there instead of Top's, or whoever else, but that said, I think Wegman's is setting themselves up for a potential problem here. All they had to say to the employee at the time of hiring is hey look, I see you have a head scarf, is checking out pork or alcohol going to be a problem for you? Yes,, Ok well sorry but maybe this isn't the right job for you. She's a cashier for God's sake!! It's her ****ing job to ring up mechandice for her employer. Mechandice that her employer advertises and sells on a daily basis..



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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    OH NO! TOLERANCE! ACCOMMODATION OF THE VIEWS OF OTHERS! A HAPPY RESOLUTION ACHIEVED FOR ALL! WE CAN'T HAVE THAT!

    ...ahem.

    If a employee makes a request of her employer, her employer makes a small change to accommodate that request, and there are no customer fall-outs as a result, I really don't see the problem here; in fact, I applaud it entirely. If she had tried to bring a lawsuit enforcing her requests, that would have been out of line; but that's not what's happened here.

    Thunder et al, you have no idea how the cashier in question would react to being asked to process something non-halal. Getting ragefull over something that you're only assuming to be true seems a little unnecessary, to me.
    No accomodation allowed to the views of those who oppose this multiculturalist appeasement?

    And Big Brother was involved if the employer felt threatened by a lawsuit if he didn't submit to Allah.
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    The camel is inside the tent. If you feel lonely and want some multiculturalists to be your new friends, you can pat the camel on the head and ask the rider, "Is my neck soft enough for your sword?"
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    For a lot of people, hysteria has replaced reasoned discourse.
    What's there to be hysterical about, though?

    I really don't see how anyone, regardless of their political lean, could be bothered by this. It's the perfect union between the liberal ideal of social justice and the conservative ideal of free enterprise.
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    No accomodation allowed to the views of those who oppose this multiculturalist appeasement?
    Oh, but there is. Don't shop at Wegman's. It's simply a matter of slapping on a pair of balls and standing up for your mono-culturalist views.
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    What's there to be hysterical about, though?

    I really don't see how anyone, regardless of their political lean, could be bothered by this. It's the perfect union between the liberal ideal of social justice and the conservative ideal of free enterprise.
    It's not so much that there's something to be hysterical about here as it is that hysteria has so dominated our airwaves on such a variety of subjects for long enough that it's become a reflexive reaction for some folks.
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    It's not so much that there's something to be hysterical about here as it is that hysteria has so dominated our airwaves on such a variety of subjects for long enough that it's become a reflexive reaction for some folks.
    I didn't see any answer from you or anyone on your side to my two posts pointing out:
    1. What's going on at Minneapolis Airport where 3/4 of the Cab drivers serving it won't pick up passeengers carrying alcohol, resulting in at least 5400 declined fares.
    2. What happens when second (3rd/4th) girl in a Hijab shows up at Wegmans looking for a checkout job.

    As it turns out, there is previous precedent/problem with this, also in Minneapolis.

    Target shifts Muslims who won't Ring up Pork
    Department stores in Minn. reassign some cashiers over religious conflict
    2007 Minneapolis
    Muslim cashiers at some local Target stores who object to ringing up products that contain pork are being shifted to other positions where they don’t need to, the discount retailer said Saturday. The Star Tribune reported this past week that some Muslim cashiers at local Targets had declined to scan pork products such as bacon because doing so would conflict with their religious beliefs. They would ask other cashiers to ring up such purchases, or sometimes customers would scan those items themselves, the newspaper reported. Minneapolis-based Target Corp. has now offered its local Muslim cashiers who object to handling pork the option of wearing gloves while cashiering, shifting to other positions or transferring to other nearby stores.
    [.......]
    Collision of work and faith
    As the local Muslim population grows, fueled by immigration from East African countries such as Somalia, efforts by Muslims to live by the rules of their faith often come into conflict with the realities of the American workplace. Disputes over how employers should accommodate prayer times surface from time to time, and there’s an ongoing dispute involving cab drivers who serve Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport—many of whom are Muslim—who refuse to take passengers who are carrying alcohol. The Metropolitan Airports Commission is expected to vote in April on a proposal that would hand out 30-day license suspensions to cabbies who refuse service for any reason, with a second refusal leading to a two-year revocation.
    Suhara Robla, who works at the SuperTarget in St. Louis Park, told the Star Tribune that more than a dozen Muslim cashiers were asked Thursday to do other jobs. “They told all of us who don’t touch pork to go to the sales floor,” she told the newspaper. “They really didn’t say why. They just said it was a new policy.”
    Worker walks over issue
    Muse Dahir told the AP this past week he quit his job at the Sam’s Club in Bloomington after he was transferred from another position to cashiering and was ordered to ring up pork purchases. Several times on his first day as a cashier, Dahir said, said customers brought pork products to his register. He asked them to take their goods to another register, and a customer complained to management. “They told me, you have to check this,” Dahir said. “I told them, I can’t do this. You want me to do something that’s against my religion.” Dahir said a manager told him that was part of the job, so “I just put down my uniform and I left.” He said it doesn’t matter if the pork product is packaged. “Even if you just sell it to someone, you break a promise to Allah,” he said.

    Jama Omar, a clerk at Otanga Grocery in Minneapolis, told the AP his store caters mostly to East African immigrants and doesn’t carry pork products, so it’s not an issue for him personally. But Omar also said Muslims shouldn’t expect special treatment. “If it causes a big problem for your employer, they have to make the decision that’s best for them,” Omar said. “It’s not something to go on strike or file a civil suit. Go somewhere else that will accept your beliefs. There’s millions of jobs.”
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    The camel is inside the tent. If you feel lonely and want some multiculturalists to be your new friends, you can pat the camel on the head and ask the rider, "Is my neck soft enough for your sword?"
    lol, you high bro?
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