If you ask for time off or a schedule change based on religious requirements, you are changing the time at which you represent the company. When you are not there, you don't represent the company.
If you ask for a change in department to accommodate your religious requirements, you are asking to be moved somewhere where there will be no conflict between your beliefs and your job.
What she is doing is asking to stay at the same job, but be permitted to deny service based on her beliefs.
The truth may be out there, but lies are in your head. ~Terry Pratchett
You said that you would “…love to have seen this in court.”
Courts are part of government. This only would have wound up in court if the two sides couldn't agree, and felt a need to bring government in to try to force each other. And only people like you think that that's better than the situation in which two people freely agree to a compromise that suits both of them, without having to resort to outside authority to try to force one to comply with the other's wishes.
The five great lies of the
We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.
Why do we fall?
So we can learn to pick ourselves up.
They're going to say to Themselves.. 'we can't afford another Muslim checkout girl'.
And they'd be right.
Lawsuits for discrimination against employing Muslims?
There's a germane phrase that has come up many times re Europe on this problem:
'Tolerating the Intolerant'.
School Curriculums have been changed (many Muslims find the Holocaust offensive), signs removed, an all manner of jumping through hoops for people that should themselves be doing the accommodating. America has generally avoided the kowtowing that has been done in the UK and elsewhere in Europe.
And to TED, Handling pork Is part of the job description as a checkout girl, even if products aren't named.
I don't recall such problems or favors granted to other religions. (Pork for Jewish employees, or Beef for Hindu ones)
The situation I pointed to previous in Minneapolis is very problematic and of course, not acknowledged by opponents.
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I'm personally sick of not being able to dunk a basketball because of racism.
She doesn't have to be discriminating against a SPECIFIC religion for it to be religious discrimination. She is discriminating against ALL non-Muslims. It's still discrimination. Just like a white person not discriminating against specifically black people, but rather ALL non-whites is still discrimination.
Whether she's discriminating based on all of her religious requirements is also not relevant. She is still discriminating based on two of them - no drinking, and no pork.
getting a day off for a Muslim holiday is perfectly fine with me, as long as she doesn't get MORE days off than other employees. that would be discrimination.
however, wanting an accomodation at her job for her religious views, that has a clear & tangible effect on the store's customers ability to shop, crosses the line in my view.
I don't care if you're a Jew who doesn't want to touch pork, a Muslim who doesn't want to touch wine, a Hindu that doesn't want to touch beef, or a Mormon who doesn't want to touch cigarettes.
if the accomodation you require has a significant effect on the shopping ability of your customers, than it goes too far.
stores are there to make money and sell stuff. and if you lose a whole checkout line, your shoppers may go elsewhere.
or they could be a bunch of bleeding heart do-gooders, more than happy to wait on line an extra five minutes, so poor little girl doesn't have to touch a cardboard package around a plastic package, that has ham in it.
Last edited by Thunder; 04-01-12 at 07:41 PM.