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Sign at Wegmans draws attention

Hypothetically, let's say the store handles such cases as saying "Well, if you're going to be a selfish prick about it, we don't want your business. Please find a new place to shop at. We'll be fine with our customers who are less selfish." What would you do then?

I would leave. They would lose a lot of customers because who wants to wait in a crowded line if there is a shorter line? That's not being selfish, btw.
 
religiously neutral =/= not a place to practice one's own religious beliefs.

To explain: if a person decides to wear a crucifix underneath their clothing, or carry one in their pocket while they work, or even say a silent prayer very 15 minutes, they are not violating the religious neutrality of the workplace.

People are free to practice their beliefs so long as the employer feels it does not interfere with their capacity to fulfill their work duties.

Keyword: Employer. Unless you are their employer, your opinion of what those work duties actually are is totally and completely irrelevant to the issue at hand. Thus, your real issue here is not with this woman at all, but with the fact her employers don't seem to give a **** about your opinion of what her duties are.

Of course it's all up to the employer.
With that said, one should assume (unless it's a religious business that allows this beforehand) that their religion should not interfere with their work duty's.

I'm totally fine with the employer allowing this, what I'm not fine with is someone applying for a job when they know they will come into contact with things that their religion forbids.
Although it's not exactly clear that Islam forbids the handling of these products.
I thought it was just the consumption of them.

She is capable of serving all customers. Pork and alcohol are not customers. No individual would be denied her service based on any intrinsic characteristic of that person.

Sure, if all customers choose not to purchase pork or alcohol.
Which is an entirely arbitrary form of discrimination.
 
This gave me the impression that she had previously handled this,

"She told her supervisor she was uncomfortable handling those items because of religious reasons. So the store manager who had experience with this type of situation outside of Rochester decided to put up a small sign whenever the girl was at the checkout counter."

Again I could be wrong, but that's how it came off to me.
If you want to be something other than a cashier, then get a job somewhere else, not being a cashier.

See, that quote reminds me of when I was hired by Sears and then placed in the paints department. I had mentioned my color-blindness to them but they decided to put me there anyway. I didn't apply to be in the paint department, that's just where they put me.

Maybe she was trying to explain why she didn't want to be a cashier when she said what she said, but the manager wanted her to be a cashier so he decided to make the accommodations that he made. It's pretty hard to tell how things went down.






No.
Those are the basic requirements of the job.
Otherwise, they wouldn't have needed to erect a special sign, just for her, asking that customers with those items, not come to her line.
The exemption of those items, is just for her line.

False. The fact that she is still performing the job despite not handling those products proves that it's not part of the basic requirements. If she were unable to perform the basic requirements, she wouldn't be doing anything in her line.


There's a difference between a retarded state law and a religious preference.

Why? Your stated logic mentioned nothing about whether or not you had to agree with the reason why a person could not fulfill what you have deemed to be "basic requirements", it only spoke of being unable to fulfill those requirements. Therefore do you think that anyone under 21 is doing something wrong by applying for a job where they know they cannot handle what you deem to be th ebasic requirements of the job due to their age?

If the employer still hires these people, that's totally up to them, including the no pork or alcohol girl.

Exaclty. So why are you bothered by the no pork or alcohol girl?



Potential ≠ near certainty.

True. But until you actually ask a potential employer, there's really no such thing as a near certainty. Only potential.

Being a cashier at a grocery store, there is a near certainty you will come into contact with items like pork or alcohol.

Not at Wegman's if you mention your preferences to them.
 
what I'm not fine with is someone applying for a job when they know they will come into contact with things that their religion forbids.

Why? Would you have the same view if the issue was a food allergy not religion?


Although it's not exactly clear that Islam forbids the handling of these products.
I thought it was just the consumption of them.

It's not something being forced upon them, so who cares if she's accurate in her views or not?




Sure, if all customers choose not to purchase pork or alcohol.

Proving that she is capable of serving all customers.

Which is an entirely arbitrary form of discrimination.

Actually, it's the exact opposite of arbitrary and it's not really a form discrimination.
 
I would leave.

Well since they decided not to serve you, that would make sense.


They would lose a lot of customers because who wants to wait in a crowded line if there is a shorter line?

So they lose business over the 10 items or less line?

That's not being selfish, btw.

Of course it is.
 
See, that quote reminds me of when I was hired by Sears and then placed in the paints department. I had mentioned my color-blindness to them but they decided to put me there anyway. I didn't apply to be in the paint department, that's just where they put me.

Maybe she was trying to explain why she didn't want to be a cashier when she said what she said, but the manager wanted her to be a cashier so he decided to make the accommodations that he made. It's pretty hard to tell how things went down.

If that's the case, the manager is stupid and she is not at fault, at all.
I wouldn't fault her, if that's the case.


False. The fact that she is still performing the job despite not handling those products proves that it's not part of the basic requirements. If she were unable to perform the basic requirements, she wouldn't be doing anything in her line.

Doing nothing at all, can certainly be the case, if the customers lining up have pork or alcohol.


Why? Your stated logic mentioned nothing about whether or not you had to agree with the reason why a person could not fulfill what you have deemed to be "basic requirements", it only spoke of being unable to fulfill those requirements. Therefore do you think that anyone under 21 is doing something wrong by applying for a job where they know they cannot handle what you deem to be th ebasic requirements of the job due to their age?

Common practice.
The state law, as dumb as it is, has been in effect for some time.
Enough that it's not an issue in common practice with most grocery stores.

Exaclty. So why are you bothered by the no pork or alcohol girl?

If (because we don't know all the details) this person applied for a job, where they would have to ask for special religious exemptions, they shouldn't have done so in the first place.

Like a female believer of Islam or Christianity, going to work at a strip club as a dancer, then later saying they can disrobe in front of other men.
That they have to do so under a burka or behind a curtain.

Now, the employer can allow this, but the women applying for the job is still an idiot for doing so in the first place, knowing the it is common practice for strippers to get naked in front of other men.


True. But until you actually ask a potential employer, there's really no such thing as a near certainty. Only potential.

I just think someone should apply for a job, where they can fit best.
In this case, maybe she should stock some isles or do other types of customer service.
Avoiding the issue entirely.

Not at Wegman's if you mention your preferences to them.

Of course, that's their choice.
 
Why? Would you have the same view if the issue was a food allergy not religion?

Because it becomes a potential source of conflict.
Where the single individual has to ask a majority to appease them.
In this sense, it's in the best interest of the greater good for the individual to find something that best fits them, not for the employer to do things for them.
You aren't getting paid to be comfortable within your religion or whatever else the problem is.

If you have a food allergy, you should avoid situations, as best as possible, where you come into contact with those foods.
So yes, absolutely, would I hold the same position.

It's not something being forced upon them, so who cares if she's accurate in her views or not?

Maybe the source of conflict can be remediable, through a correction in what she believes, rather than what they did.

Proving that she is capable of serving all customers.

The store sells these items, the store is supposed to sell these items because customers want them.
To me, it seems retarded to put the onus on the customer, to not buy an item, so they can be served by this individual.
That's not what she gets paid to do. (well she does now)

Actually, it's the exact opposite of arbitrary and it's not really a form discrimination.

It's arbitrary based on the fact that packaged alcohol and pork are of no danger to her, in a literal sense.
It just offends her religion.
 
Well since they decided not to serve you, that would make sense.




So they lose business over the 10 items or less line?



Of course it is.

That's not being selfish. Impatient, perhaps, but not selfish.
I don't understand what point you're making re. the 10 items or less line. Sometimes they'll call you over to that line if the other lines are crowded. It's not expected, though, unless you have 10 items or less.
 
If that's the case, the manager is stupid and she is not at fault, at all.
I wouldn't fault her, if that's the case.

Why would he be stupid for that. Maybe he really thinks she'll be a good employee and doesn't feel that ringing up pork and alcohol counts as a basic job requirement. She migt end up beingthe best employee they've ever had for all we know.

Doing nothing at all, can certainly be the case, if the customers lining up have pork or alcohol.

Or if there are no customers at all at any given time.

Common practice.
The state law, as dumb as it is, has been in effect for some time.
Enough that it's not an issue in common practice with most grocery stores.

Is it not a common practice at Wegman's to treat their employees well? I gathered that it was a common practice there from what people have said.

If (because we don't know all the details) this person applied for a job, where they would have to ask for special religious exemptions, they shouldn't have done so in the first place.

Why not?

Like a female believer of Islam or Christianity, going to work at a strip club as a dancer, then later saying they can disrobe in front of other men.
That they have to do so under a burka or behind a curtain.

If the strip club chooses to make such accommodations for them, what's the problem with it? Especially in that industry where they wouldn't make any money from doing that. I'd almost allow them to do it for the ****s and giggles. They work for tips.

Now, the employer can allow this, but the women applying for the job is still an idiot for doing so in the first place, knowing the it is common practice for strippers to get naked in front of other men.

Why are they an idiot for doing it? Do you think that peoples shouldn't ask for stuff from their employers simply to see if they can get it?


I just think someone should apply for a job, where they can fit best.

What if that's not possible?

In this case, maybe she should stock some isles or do other types of customer service.

That's up to the employer, no.

Avoiding the issue entirely.

What issue? There's really no issue if both parties agree.
 
That's not being selfish. Impatient, perhaps, but not selfish.

The fact that it's done due to impatience is why it's selfish.

I don't understand what point you're making re. the 10 items or less line.

The point is that your claim about them losing customers is not supported by the evidence presented by the existence of 10 items or less lines.
 
Why would he be stupid for that. Maybe he really thinks she'll be a good employee and doesn't feel that ringing up pork and alcohol counts as a basic job requirement. She migt end up beingthe best employee they've ever had for all we know.

I an employee can't serve all the customers, based on what's in the customers cart, I find it highly unlikely, that they will be the best employee ever.

Or if there are no customers at all at any given time.

Yep.

Is it not a common practice at Wegman's to treat their employees well? I gathered that it was a common practice there from what people have said.

Ehh, that's sort of a straw man.
My issue isn't with Wegman's, I've never heard of it until this story.

Making accommodations for religion, when it can conflict with the duty of the job, aka servicing custom regardless of their cart contents.
Isn't the same as treating employees well.


Because it's up to the individual to find a job that best fits their beliefs.
It's not the employers responsibility.

I guess it's a difference of beliefs.
I don't think it's proper, it seems extra needy, in my opinion.

If the strip club chooses to make such accommodations for them, what's the problem with it? Especially in that industry where they wouldn't make any money from doing that. I'd almost allow them to do it for the ****s and giggles. They work for tips.

The club can do as it wishes, I still think the applicant/employee is dumb for doing so.
If it turns out to be a winner for them, great, but I find it unlikely.


Why are they an idiot for doing it? Do you think that peoples shouldn't ask for stuff from their employers simply to see if they can get it?

No.
It's annoying.


What if that's not possible?

Sucks for you.
Why should everyone else, have to change their life, because you can't find a niche based on your choices (in this case religion) or because you were born with a food allergy.

That's up to the employer, no.

Correct.

What issue? There's really no issue if both parties agree.

There isn't if both parties agree.
I just have a different standard, of what I expect out of people.
 
Because it becomes a potential source of conflict.
Where the single individual has to ask a majority to appease them.
In this sense, it's in the best interest of the greater good for the individual to find something that best fits them, not for the employer to do things for them.
You aren't getting paid to be comfortable within your religion or whatever else the problem is.

She didn't ask the majority to appease her, she only asked her employer to do so. She's not asking people to not by pork and alcohol because it offends her sensibilities.

If you have a food allergy, you should avoid situations, as best as possible, where you come into contact with those foods.

So you feel that such a person would be an idiot if they asked their employer if such an accommodation could be made for them?


Maybe the source of conflict can be remediable, through a correction in what she believes, rather than what they did.

What conflict are you talking about? Both parties happily agreed to the arrangement that exists.

The store sells these items, the store is supposed to sell these items because customers want them.

They sell those items because they choose to sell those items. Teh customers buy form that store because they choose to buy form that store. Neither party is entitled to the other's services.


To me, it seems retarded to put the onus on the customer, to not buy an item, so they can be served by this individual.

Why is that retarded? It's not like they are entitled to her services. She's not their slave. If they really want her services, then they can choose to receive her services. Why shouldn't they be responsible for their choices?



That's not what she gets paid to do. (well she does now)


You don't define what she's paid to do. Why do you keep acting like you do by making claims like this?


It just offends her religion.

Meaning it is the exact opposite of arbitrary.
 
This tough from an iPhone but I'll try.

What I'm ready now page after page are a lot "what ifs": "What if she is the beginning of a Muslim hoarde of checkout people at Wegmans?" "What if people with booze have schlep to another register?" "What if the other employees key her car in the parking lo?" What if doesn't mean jack? Y'all all tight jawed and wanting to argue about things that don't exist!

Wegmans is a family owned business. It can hire her or not. It can change the job description, it can make accommodations. The facts ARE that they are not discriminating against this woman because of her beliefs. They may very well doing similar things for orthodox Jews. Good for them! I hope they are employing people with disabilities too and providing them with reasonable accommodations and equal opportunity as well. Bless 'em.

If by doing this they discourage small minded and impatient bastards from shopping there Wegmans must be heaven on earth!

Wegmans knows what it is doing despite the incredible hysterics by some posting here. And they make money being good guys! Imagine that! But here is the bottom line. Wegmans knows damn well what it is doing.

We don't know all the facts. We don't know if this store in particular serves a large Muslim population or if she is training to work in a store they will open in a Muslim area. Or maybe Wegmans truly believes that you cannot end hate with hate. Maybe they realize that understanding each other is the candle in the darkness.
 
She didn't ask the majority to appease her, she only asked her employer to do so. She's not asking people to not by pork and alcohol because it offends her sensibilities.

And by proxy the customers.

So you feel that such a person would be an idiot if they asked their employer if such an accommodation could be made for them?

In the instance of being a cashier of a grocery store, where the incidence of coming into contact with an item, is high, yes.

What conflict are you talking about? Both parties happily agreed to the arrangement that exists.

Conflict is a disagreement between the duty's of the job and the person's belief.
Such a conflict existed and was remediated.

They sell those items because they choose to sell those items. Teh customers buy form that store because they choose to buy form that store. Neither party is entitled to the other's services.

Of course, but the common function of a grocery store is to sell those items and the common behavior of cashiers is to scan those items without issue.



Why is that retarded? It's not like they are entitled to her services. She's not their slave. If they really want her services, then they can choose to receive her services. Why shouldn't they be responsible for their choices?

It's a customer service oriented business and job.
Doing whats best for the customer, is the job.




You don't define what she's paid to do. Why do you keep acting like you do by making claims like this?

Of course I don't.
But practically every other cashier, can ring up items indiscriminately, common practice defines the duty.

Besides the fact, that she had to ask to be exempt from scanning some items, which implies that it was part of the duty of her job.


Meaning it is the exact opposite of arbitrary.

To me, it's arbitrary. :shrug:
 
This tough from an iPhone but I'll try.

What I'm ready now page after page are a lot "what ifs": "What if she is the beginning of a Muslim hoarde of checkout people at Wegmans?" "What if people with booze have schlep to another register?" "What if the other employees key her car in the parking lo?" What if doesn't mean jack? Y'all all tight jawed and wanting to argue about things that don't exist!

Wegmans is a family owned business. It can hire her or not. It can change the job description, it can make accommodations. The facts ARE that they are not discriminating against this woman because of her beliefs. They may very well doing similar things for orthodox Jews. Good for them! I hope they are employing people with disabilities too and providing them with reasonable accommodations and equal opportunity as well. Bless 'em.

If by doing this they discourage small minded and impatient bastards from shopping there Wegmans must be heaven on earth!

Wegmans knows what it is doing despite the incredible hysterics by some posting here. And they make money being good guys! Imagine that! But here is the bottom line. Wegmans knows damn well what it is doing.

We don't know all the facts. We don't know if this store in particular serves a large Muslim population or if she is training to work in a store they will open in a Muslim area. Or maybe Wegmans truly believes that you cannot end hate with hate. Maybe they realize that understanding each other is the candle in the darkness.

Listen, I don't care what religion she is.
That is not the issue.

The issue is getting a job, then later asking for exemptions to performing the job.
That's really it.

Wegman's doesn't give a crap, that's fine.
I just, personally, think it's dumb.

You are hired to a job, do it and go home, where you can practice your religion.
 
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please share with us where in the United States of America that you canNOT take your money elsewhere if you want

I posted it earlier. But you miss my point. I was not saying that a customer can't go elsewhere. I was saying that such should be the remedy. as opposed to government intrusion on the product and service choices of the retailer.

FYI, certain privately owned drug stores had refused to sell birth control of any sort. Some states passed laws compelling them to sell such items regardless. Illinois for one.

You can Google that topic, and get all kinds of interesting stuff from the last decade.
 
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Um, actually, she doesn't need to. She asked for a dispensation and she received it. She's not in the wrong here.

Never said she was in the wrong. But, hey...nevermind what I really said.
 
Listen, I don't care what religion she is.
That is not the issue.

The issue is getting a job, then later asking for exemptions to performing the job.
That's really it.

Wegman's doesn't give a crap, that's fine.
I just, personally, think it's dumb.

You are hired to a job, do it and go home, where you can practice your religion.

But HG, perhaps she is doing the job SHE was hired to do. Wegman's doesn't seem to have an issue with her. As far as I know the community by a large doesn't seem to have an issue with her. I'm confused then why it's an issue. Do you shop at that Wegman's? Are you opposed to Wegman's accommodating the work schedule of orthodox Jews?

There is a very successful Southern fast food chain called Chick-fil-A. I don't know if they have it where you live. They have a good product as fast food goes and they have done very well. Chick-fil-A has never been open on Sundays. The Cathy Family started and owns Chick-fil-A is a Southern Baptist family. They made a decision long ago not to work on Sunday. They don't have just one Muslim woman who doesn't handle pork or alcohol in one store, they close ALL stores every Sunday. Look how much money they are losing by closing on Sundays. By your standards they are dumber than the Wegman's.
 
I didn't know Chick did that. We don't have them here, but I have heard of them.
 
I didn't know Chick did that. We don't have them here, but I have heard of them.

Yeah, they always have. It works for them, more power to them. Is it costing them profit? Probably. But, I'd be very surprised if I ever discovered that the Cathy family emphasized profit over everything else. Wegmans and Chick-fil-A are both family owned.
 
And by proxy the customers.

The employer is asking the customers, not her. They don't have to make the accommodation, they choose to. And the customers don't have to shop there, they choose to.



In the instance of being a cashier of a grocery store, where the incidence of coming into contact with an item, is high, yes.

But the incidence is not high for her due to the fact that she asked. To me, idiocy is not even attempting to find out if the situation is a fit and making stupid assumptions that turn out to be wrong. She had no guarantees that she would receive the accommodation, but she might have still been willing to perform the tasks because she needed the job.

Read it all again. She only said that she was uncomfortable, not unwilling. There's a huge difference there.

Conflict is a disagreement between the duty's of the job and the person's belief.

Exactly. No conflict existed outside of your imagination because you are the one disagreeing with the job's duties and her beliefs. Her employer obviously does not disagree with her, as evidenced by their choice to make the accommodation.

Such a conflict existed and was remediated.

No, the conflict didn't exist because it was addressed before it ever became a conflict.

Conflicts only occur when disagreement is present. In this case, there was no disagreement.



Of course, but the common function of a grocery store is to sell those items and the common behavior of cashiers is to scan those items without issue.

So? This isn't every grocery store, it is a specific grocery store. You dont;' decide what their function is, nor does the common function decide that. The function of Wegman's is defined by Wegman's alone.



It's a customer service oriented business and job.

So?


Doing whats best for the customer, is the job.

Again: You don't define the job.




Of course I don't.

Yet you just tried to do so above. Again.

But practically every other cashier, can ring up items indiscriminately, common practice defines the duty.

False. The employer defines the duties.

Besides the fact, that she had to ask to be exempt from scanning some items, which implies that it was part of the duty of her job.

You are only taking partial information into account, thus your analysis is flawed. The fact that she was exempted proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that it is not a part of the duty of her job. The employer defines the duties of her job, not you.


To me, it's arbitrary. :shrug:

What it seems to you is irrelevant. The definition of arbitrary is. You can't simply make up a new definition so that you can label something in a way that you deem negative.

Arbitrary means what it means, and her issues with pork and alcohol are not based on "random choice or personal whim rather than any reason or system". Her beliefs are based entirely on a specifically defined system, making it the exact opposite of arbitrary. The very fact that it is due to a religious belief means it cannot possibly be arbitrary. No real definition of arbitrary exists which allows for it to qualify as arbitrary.

How you feel about things is totally and completely irrelevant to that fact.
 
I an employee can't serve all the customers, based on what's in the customers cart, I find it highly unlikely, that they will be the best employee ever.

What you find unlikely is, of course, irrelevant. You have already decided (arbitrarily, I might add) that she is a bad employee without knowing anything about her. Plus, you obviously have a false belief about what this woman's job duties are because you keep assuming that you can define those job duties, rather than acknowledging that it is Wegman's and Wegman's alone that defines those duties.


Ehh, that's sort of a straw man.
My issue isn't with Wegman's, I've never heard of it until this story.

I think there was a disconnect there. I didn't say that you had an issue with Wegman's there (although I do think the logic you have provided does clearly indicates that your issue is with Wegman's disagreement with your assessments of what this woman's job duties are supposed to be rather than anything else).

I said that, according to all available information, it is Wegman's common practice to treat their employees a certain way. Thus, your addition of a "common practice" premise (which counts as a moving the goalposts fallacy, by the way) still doesn't support your conclusion that this woman is an idiot for asking for these accommodations. Seeing how every person here that is familiar with Wegman's is also familiar with their reputation for being very good to their employees proves that it is comon practice at wegman's to treat employees well. Thus, sticking firmly with the logic you have provided yourself, asking Wegman's to make such an accommodation would not make a person an idiot because it is well known that such accommodations have a higher potential for being made at this particular place of employment and thus dramatically lowering the likelihood that a job at wegman's will bring one into contact with the offending products.

It's simply a matter of your analysis being incomplete. You are assuming incorrectly that Wegman's is an average grocery store as far as employment goes and are thus making comparison to your perception of the average grocery store. We know, however, that Wegmans is an exceptional grocery store as far as employment goes, so your analysis is not only incomplete, it involves premises which are known to be false.

Premises such as the assumption that this job will be likely to bring one into contact with pork and alcohol. We know this is false because we can provide a clear and indisputable example of it being false. In fact, that clear and indisputable example is the very center of the debate.

Making accommodations for religion, when it can conflict with the duty of the job, aka servicing custom regardless of their cart contents.

Again, you do not define what the duties of her job are. Wegman's does. They have decided that this is not in conflict with the duties of her job.

Only their opinion matters in this regard.

Because it's up to the individual to find a job that best fits their beliefs.

You don't seem to realize that this woman accomplished finding a job that fits her beliefs. You don't have to like it, but your dislike doesn't make it any less true.

It's not the employers responsibility.

Of course, nobody ever said it was the employers responsibility to do so. Pretending that someone did say this would be a strawman, of course.

The employer simply defines their employees job duties. If they choose to define these job duties in such a way that it accomodates the perosn's religious beliefs, then they are free to do so. Who are you to arbitrarily decide that she is not living up to her duties?

I guess it's a difference of beliefs.
I don't think it's proper, it seems extra needy, in my opinion.

This s correct. And it shows that, by definition, your objections are arbitrary.



The club can do as it wishes, I still think the applicant/employee is dumb for doing so.

Of course you would, but your conclusions are arrived at arbitrarily so what value do they have to anyone else? :shrug:

I even explained how my decision to accommodate such a "stripper" if I were in that situation would be arbitrarily based on my sense of humor.

If it turns out to be a winner for them, great, but I find it unlikely.

Who cares what you find likely?


No.
It's annoying.

Ah, so you admit your assessment is entirely arbitrary.

Frankly, though, who gives a **** if it's annoying to you? Do you really think that the world should align itself so that ti doesn't annoy you? And why do you even care enough about it to find it annoying? Are you an employer who has faced this unusual circumstance so often that it has caused you discomfort? Are you even an employer?

It seems to me that you are the sole creator of your own annoyance here. It doesn't affect you in any way, yet you've decided to intrude upon the situation in order to get yourself annoyed by it, because without your active participation in being annoyed by it, it wouldn't affect you in any way shape or form. I mean, you admit that you never even heard of Wegman's before you heard this story. Had you never heard the story, you would never have gotten yourself annoyed by this woman's actions. However, this woman has done nothing to affect you in any way. You've chosen to be affected, thus you have simply annoyed yourself.



Why should everyone else, have to change their life, because you can't find a niche based on your choices (in this case religion) or because you were born with a food allergy.

Nobody has to change their lives in any way, shape, or form. People go to the store, they pick out their groceries, they go into a line where they can pay for their product, they pay for the product, and they go on their way. Nothing at all has changed.

I challenge you to actually show how something has changed for "everyone". things have changed for precisely two people, and those changes are by choice: the employer and the employee. that is it. Not a single other person is affected by this in any way. Go ahead. Describe how things were for everyone before, and how things are actually different now because I just described a very true description of events for both before AND after the accommodation was made showing that no changes are present for everyone.



And the employer in this case decided that she should be a cashier. So what's your problem?

There isn't if both parties agree.

So if you acknowledge there is no issue, why are you getting yourself annoyed over this?

I just have a different standard, of what I expect out of people.

Good for you. Not surprisingly, most people do have different standards for what they expect from other people. And your standard will be relevant when you are the employer involved. When you aren't the employer, your standards and expectations don't really mean jack ****, and they are really quite arbitrary.
 
They have a good product as fast food goes and they have done very well. Chick-fil-A has never been open on Sundays.

They opened up a few around the Chicagoland area and I can totally see why they do well. It's actually good enough that I think calling it fast food is a bit of a disservice to them. I'd actually be content with real restaurant food that tasted the same as Chick-fil-A. I can't say that about the vast majority of fast food places.

I'd attribute that to the fact that it is family-owned, btw. They actually take pride in their product.
 
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They opened up a few around the Chicagoland area and I can totally see why they do well. It's actually good enough that I think calling it fast food is a bit of a disservice to them. I'd actually be content with real restaurant food that tasted the same as Chick-fil-A. I can't say that about the vast majority of fast food places.

I'd attribute that to the fact that it is family-owned, btw. They actually take pride in their product.

Anytime I'm in Chicagoland I'm eating White Castle. :mrgreen:
 
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