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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Yes, but we are also to blend or mix in. That is I accept your culture and religion, and you are to accept mine. When only one side has to "make exceptions", then we have lost what your laws are all about.
    She isn't berating people or calling them infadels. She just doesn't want to handle foods that her religion frowns upon. Maintaining that doesn't mean she isn't blending in.

    Also, one side didn't have to make exceptions, an exception was requested and granted. People across this country make requests of their employers and neighbors that are designed to accommodate their own lifestyle.
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    first halaal-only taxi cabs, now this.

    slipery slope, my friend.
    So you're saying a private company shouldn't do what it feels is best for it's employees and customers?



    you're not supposed to move to a new country...to change the country. YOU are supposed to assimilate with it.
    A teenage girl asked a favor that was granted by her employers. She's clearly Mujahadeen.
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    She isn't berating people or calling them infadels. She just doesn't want to handle foods that her religion frowns upon. Maintaining that doesn't mean she isn't blending in.

    Also, one side didn't have to make exceptions, an exception was requested and granted. People across this country make requests of their employers and neighbors that are designed to accommodate their own lifestyle.
    I was looking at it from a broader situation, not just this case.
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    So you're saying a private company shouldn't do what it feels is best for it's employees and customers?...
    I don't believe that enabling such a sense of entitlement, is what's best for this employee


    ...A teenage girl asked a favor that was granted by her employers. She's clearly Mujahadeen.
    don't go there, friend. I've made no such accusation and for you to bring this down to that level, is pretty ****ing pathetic & dishonest of you.

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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I don't believe that enabling such a sense of entitlement, is what's best for this employee
    It's almost like your specialty is assuming facts not in evidence...
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I don't believe that enabling such a sense of entitlement, is what's best for this employee
    What sense of entitlement? If a Jew, or a Hindu employee of mine had a similar request of accommodation, I'd see no reason why it shouldn't be granted. Hell, I'd even accommodate Christians Wiccans and Atheists, but I'm a nice guy.

    don't go there, friend. I've made no such accusation and for you to bring this down to that level, is pretty ****ing pathetic & dishonest of you.
    It's alright for you to blow this up into some huge slippery slope scenario, but you can't take sarcastic humor. You might want to do something about that, because I got jokes.
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    ....It's alright for you to blow this up into some huge slippery slope scenario, but you can't take sarcastic humor. You might want to do something about that, because I got jokes.
    oh, you were being sarcastic.

    I thought you werre accusing me of hating Muslims.

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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    This is a decision made by an employer of a private business, and as such they have the right to allow whatever exceptions they want. If this was going to come up, I'm glad it was dealt with personally rather than governmentally.

    But as others have brought up, there's a really bad precedent for this. People being refused service for all kinds of reasons. What if she's the only person working the register? Are you just supposed to go home, or drive however many miles to go somewhere else, even though the store sells pork/alcohol which you are supposed to be allowed to purchase?

    How many people missed their flights and flushed a few hundred dollars down the drain because Muslim taxi drivers refused to transport their luggage if it contained alcohol?

    How many girls had preventable unwanted pregnancies because they were denied access to emergency contraception by Christian pharm techs?

    When you do a job, you are not representing yourself. You are representing the company you work for. If you cannot in good conscious do that, you should not work there.

    It's all good and well to be tolerant towards employees with different lifestyles and beliefs. But what about being tolerant towards CUSTOMERS with different lifestyles and beliefs?

    The customer can't help who happens to be the only person working the register, or the taxi driver they happened to run into, or the pharm tech they happened to run into. Why is it ok to discriminate against the customer, and deny them possibly vital service?

    Why are they offering a service that the customer can be denied access to at the whimsy of an employee?

    What's really ironic about this is that I'm on another thread about tattoos, and people are arguing that if you're going to display your personal beliefs with a tattoo, you should expect to be turned down for jobs.

    Yet if you express your personal beliefs by denying your customers services that you are supposed to offer, you should expect special treatment?

    I don't get this.
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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    This is a decision made by an employer of a private business, and as such they have the right to allow whatever exceptions they want. If this was going to come up, I'm glad it was dealt with personally rather than governmentally.

    But as others have brought up, there's a really bad precedent for this. People being refused service for all kinds of reasons. What if she's the only person working the register? Are you just supposed to go home, or drive however many miles to go somewhere else, even though the store sells pork/alcohol which you are supposed to be allowed to purchase?

    How many people missed their flights and flushed a few hundred dollars down the drain because Muslim taxi drivers refused to transport their luggage if it contained alcohol?

    How many girls had preventable unwanted pregnancies because they were denied access to emergency contraception by Christian pharm techs?....
    indeed.

    if a supermarket has 4 lines, and one becomes halaal-only, that's 25% of the lines that are now inaccessable to anyone who wants to buy ham sandwhich meat for their kids or beer for the ball game.

    ....just becuase one uppity worker who think she's special, doesn't want to touch a piece of cardboard that is surrounding a piece of plastic that has ham inside of it.

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    Re: Sign at Wegmans draws attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    its too bad the owner agreed to make accomodations [sic] for her "needs".

    id love to have seen this in court.
    Pretty much proves what I said earlier. Your problem with this is that the two parties involved were able to come to an agreement that they both found acceptable, without either side having to go run crying to government to step in and try to force the other side.

    Most people think it's a good thing when people can come to such an agreement without invoking outside authorities. It's only people like you who think that's a bad thing.
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