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    Re: Connecticut condo owner told to remove Jewish religious ornament or face fines

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Doesn't mean the terms are literally carved in stone. I have no issue with someone signing a contract and "agreeing" to terms, then working to have some of the terms overturned.
    So it's ok to agree to terms of a contract and then try to weasel out of your responsibilities?
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    Re: Connecticut condo owner told to remove Jewish religious ornament or face fines

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So it's ok to agree to terms of a contract and then try to weasel out of your responsibilities?
    Your phrasing is presumptuous and incorrect. Apparently, you feel that once a law/rule is passed that it is sacrosanct and can never... ever... be questioned or challenged or modified.

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    Re: Connecticut condo owner told to remove Jewish religious ornament or face fines

    Well, it's certainly tempting to go down the road of personal responsibility with signing on to buying a condo with such restrictive covenants...


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    Re: Connecticut condo owner told to remove Jewish religious ornament or face fines

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So it's ok to agree to terms of a contract and then try to weasel out of your responsibilities?
    Responsibilities under a contract that will be proven to be unconstitutional?

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    Re: Connecticut condo owner told to remove Jewish religious ornament or face fines

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Your phrasing is presumptuous and incorrect. Apparently, you feel that once a law/rule is passed that it is sacrosanct and can never... ever... be questioned or challenged or modified.
    It would be ok to question, challenge, or modify. Condo and homeowners associations do this all all the time. It is not ok to violate.

    At least in my homeowners association, there are procedures to change the regs and request variances.

    What some miss is that there are reasons for homeowners assn rules. I do not want junk cars parked in front yards next to my luxury home, or destruction of the lakefront for a single owners personal gratification, and therefore the appeal of a homeowners association that had rules similar to what I wanted played a part in the decision to purchase where I did.

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    Re: Connecticut condo owner told to remove Jewish religious ornament or face fines

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    some will be relinquished when executing acceptance of the condo association bylaws
    "The declaration expressly prohibits unit owners from hanging or displaying anything on the outside windows or outside walls of any building, and also prohibits any sign from being affixed to or placed upon the exterior walls without prior consent of the association's board of directors,"
    did she follow protocol and seek the consent of the board to permanently affix her mezuzah
    i am guessing 'no', otherwise she would have cited the disparate religious treatment when recognizing "According to an agreement with its condo owners, the display of items like Christmas wreaths and crosses on doors is allowed ...".
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    I doubt the condominium company will win. Have you ever seen these things? They are no larger than a door knocker which is likely allowed. You have to be right up by the door as well, and it is not on the door, but next to it. If you didn't know what it was you probably wouldn't figure it out from any reasonable distance away. The law firm will probably embarrass the condominium through media stories like this, and show what small-minded pricks this company is.
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    Re: Connecticut condo owner told to remove Jewish religious ornament or face fines

    She is wrong. I live in a condo and I do not want to see politics and or religion displayed anywhere. It is MY home as well as hers and eveyone elses. We all agree to abide by the condo laws or pay the price. Your right to freedom of expression is simply not permitted anywhere where others find it offensive or disturbing. Don't scream whereever to desire or you may go to jail. She should moe out to a place where she is not OBLIGATED to an association but I hope she has tolerant neighbors in her new neighborhood!!
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    Re: Connecticut condo owner told to remove Jewish religious ornament or face fines

    They are out of line, you all realize this is what they are talking about right?





    it's literally like 4", 1". and hardley noticable. I think fools live in HOA developments. I will never.
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    Re: Connecticut condo owner told to remove Jewish religious ornament or face fines

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    She is wrong. I live in a condo and I do not want to see politics and or religion displayed anywhere. It is MY home as well as hers and eveyone elses. We all agree to abide by the condo laws or pay the price. Your right to freedom of expression is simply not permitted anywhere where others find it offensive or disturbing. Don't scream whereever to desire or you may go to jail. She should moe out to a place where she is not OBLIGATED to an association but I hope she has tolerant neighbors in her new neighborhood!!
    So you are offended by this tiny display? You are too easily offended to live in a republic, maybe you should consider a communist regime where each nut and bolt on the premises are controlled.

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    Re: Connecticut condo owner told to remove Jewish religious ornament or face fines

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Your phrasing is presumptuous and incorrect. Apparently, you feel that once a law/rule is passed that it is sacrosanct and can never... ever... be questioned or challenged or modified.
    It can be modified if both parties involved in contract agree to modify the contract. I'm not saying it cannot be. But it sounded more from the statement that it was meant that an individual can sign a contract not intending to uphold his end of contract, but rather to take it to court and get the terms forcibly chnaged through government.
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