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    Re: Man Arrested For Reading The Bible Out Loud

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Whether I feel threatened or not, is not an idication someone else might not be. But I guess your stupid post assumes you cannot seperate the two.

    Typical conservative bull**** as usual. Your "undisclosed" lean is laughable when your posts scream of conserative BS.
    So a crime has been committed because "someone else might be" threatened by someone reading from a book of myths.

    Someone else might be........someone else might be......someone else might be.....

    Good argument. Try that in court and let me know how it comes out. Big brother's little helpers are only trying to protect us from each other. Remember that, folks.

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    Re: Man Arrested For Reading The Bible Out Loud

    again, if this was some Muslim extremist preaching the Koran, most of the attitudes supporting the preacher would be reversed.

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    Re: Man Arrested For Reading The Bible Out Loud

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "Trespassing". "No permit". "Disorderly conduct". (aka we dont like your peaceful march).

    So were they arrested on public property? Yes or no? Was this guy arrested on public property? Yes what are his charges. disorderly conduct.... Just like OWS...
    You said they were arrested for simply walking. Now you have admitted they were arrested for "Trespassing". "No permit". "Disorderly conduct". Are you confused today?

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    Re: Man Arrested For Reading The Bible Out Loud

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    You said they were arrested for simply walking. Now you have admitted they were arrested for "Trespassing". "No permit". "Disorderly conduct". Are you confused today?
    No i admitted that was the charges against them which most of them have been dropped by the judges... You asked for the charges, i gave you the charges, and most of them have been dropped.
    Now hold these standards you have against OWS and apply them to the guy preaching...


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    Re: Man Arrested For Reading The Bible Out Loud

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    again, if this was some Muslim extremist preaching the Koran, most of the attitudes supporting the preacher would be reversed.
    Are you claiming this guy is a Christian extremist?

    And probably, a Muslim extremist wouldn't be dumb enough to do this in public... he'd be there all alone and probably would be charged (since he's an extremist) with different violations. But your purpose was to show how intolerant (ie., religious hate) those who support Meyer's are, in an uber strawman fallacy kind of way.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Man Arrested For Reading The Bible Out Loud

    I'm a bit on the fence with this one, I can see maybe the “captive audience” thing; but I’m not sure it’s really being applied well here. People were standing in line for the DMV, but no one actually had to listen. I don’t really see how this guy reading out of the bible was infringing upon the rights of others, and as such I’m well more inclined to not make something of the sort illegal. Though the government would likely use some BS excuse on permits as to why the dude was arrested (though I’m not so sure why we have to ask government’s permission all the damned time to exercise our rights). In the end, I’m more likely to call no harm no foul on this one. I don’t think he should have been arrested; but this street would go two ways as well. If some jerk atheist was sitting there preaching the evils of religion; we’d have to allow that too.
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    Re: Man Arrested For Reading The Bible Out Loud

    No, someone was arrested for violating a property owner's rights.

    The bottomline is property owners still have rights in this country.

    nice spin though, attempting to create the faux argument that our ancient and time honored right to own property is superceeded by anyone who wishes to invoke a religious tone to the trespass.

    That is was a book of myths and factually incorrect stories is beside the point.

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    Re: Man Arrested For Reading The Bible Out Loud

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    No, someone was arrested for violating a property owner's rights.

    The bottomline is property owners still have rights in this country.

    nice spin though, attempting to create the faux argument that our ancient and time honored right to own property is superceeded by anyone who wishes to invoke a religious tone to the trespass.

    That is was a book of myths and factually incorrect stories is beside the point.
    I was under the impression that this was done on public property, not private.
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    Re: Man Arrested For Reading The Bible Out Loud

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I made no absolute statement one way or the other. The first quote you ignored the "according to reports" - not according to me since I didn't write the articles. The second quote is not complete...
    I didn't ignore the according to reports...the "reports" in question were irrelevant to the portion of your statement that was based on YOUR statements not the reports.

    The report in the OP made ZERO claims that its as "public property". That was YOUR absolute statement. You were talking about the report in regards to it being dropped to trespassing, NOT in regards to it being public property. THAT part was YOUR reading of the issue. But nice attempt to dodge by claiming you were just talking about "reports", but again...it goes back to the fact that the things you CLAIM are things I can actually go back and read. You claimed you didn't make an absolute claim that it WAS public property...but I could go back and read clearly that you did. You claim that your absolute statements of such was just repeating what was said "according to reports", but I was able to read the OP's article and see that there was no such case of the report stating it was public property.

    So, the OP doesn't claim what you suggest it claims. Care to point me to what you were actually meaning to reference then?

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    Re: Man Arrested For Reading The Bible Out Loud

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    If it's a public sidewalk, then how can the guy be arrested because he read from a book?
    Really? You state it was on a public sidewalk based on? Your initial article doesn't state this. Where are you getting that he was on a public sidewalk?

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