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    Re: TSA Manager Arrested for Running Prostitution Ring

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Organizations require skills. Skills come with personalities. Personalities demand organizations.
    Okay. In general, getting you here.

    If a skill-required personality does something illicit, that means the organization is corrupt, and society in general is dysfunctional.
    So you're seriously saying any person in a skill-required job (In this case, you're saying managing people is a skill required job) that means the organization is corrupt?

    So you're saying ANY manager or skill-related job individual who breaks the law represents their organization being corrupt.

    So i'll ask you again. IS the GOP corrupt? Being a politician is a skill-required job. He was clearly an unethical individual. Does that mean the GOP is corrupt? Or if you'd prefer, does Scooter Libby show that since he was actually convicted of a violation of the law?

    You guys either don't get this, or you're deliberately trying to keep people out in the cold so they suffer and endure drama.
    No, we get your point. Your point is stupid, unrealistic, and retarded. An individual doing something bad, specifically something bad that has zero to do with his job or his organization, in no way indicates organizational corruption. That's idiotic.

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    Re: TSA Manager Arrested for Running Prostitution Ring

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Organizations require skills. Skills come with personalities. Personalities demand organizations.

    If a skill-required personality does something illicit, that means the organization is corrupt, and society in general is dysfunctional.

    You guys either don't get this, or you're deliberately trying to keep people out in the cold so they suffer and endure drama.
    In this entire rant, you're making the false assumption that a predilection for running prostitution rings somehow ends up on people's resumes.
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    Re: TSA Manager Arrested for Running Prostitution Ring

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    In this entire rant, you're making the false assumption that a predilection for running prostitution rings somehow ends up on people's resumes.
    Well, it does sort of focus on logistics, coordination and customer service... of a sort.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: TSA Manager Arrested for Running Prostitution Ring

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So you're seriously saying any person in a skill-required job (In this case, you're saying managing people is a skill required job) that means the organization is corrupt?

    So you're saying ANY manager or skill-related job individual who breaks the law represents their organization being corrupt.
    Yea, obviously. The organization wasn't able to check for character flaws in advance of something bad happening.

    The organization could also be corrupted by a higher order. For example, the TSA's inability to filter out prostitution ring leading employees could be related to what the TSA is setting out to do - perversion.

    The organization could also be culturally corrupted. For example, it could engage in perversion because society disregards family values, and people aren't sexually comfortable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So i'll ask you again. IS the GOP corrupt? Being a politician is a skill-required job. He was clearly an unethical individual. Does that mean the GOP is corrupt? Or if you'd prefer, does Scooter Libby show that since he was actually convicted of a violation of the law?
    Well yea, party politics are inherently corrupt. There's no transparency between the establishment and populace.

    George Washington opposed party politics for good reason:

    However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    No, we get your point. Your point is stupid, unrealistic, and retarded. An individual doing something bad, specifically something bad that has zero to do with his job or his organization, in no way indicates organizational corruption. That's idiotic.
    Yes it does. It's called naivete.

    This is what makes conservative criticism of this issue so ironic. Liberals are laughing hysterically in seeing how naive conservatives have become.

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    Re: TSA Manager Arrested for Running Prostitution Ring

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    In this entire rant, you're making the false assumption that a predilection for running prostitution rings somehow ends up on people's resumes.
    Avoiding public knowledge is a good sign of responsible government?

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    Re: TSA Manager Arrested for Running Prostitution Ring

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    The only thing I got out of this was that there were three naked womein in a room.
    Yeah I read an article on this earlier this morning. Unless there are details omitted that paint a different picture it seems like the prostitution charge would not stick. It is not illegal to have an orgy, and from the details that I have seen this is all the defense would need to present in its case to get the charges dropped.

    edit. ok I just saw this part in the article.. still seems a weak case with just one man claiming he paid.

    one of the men in the room told Montgomery County police that, "he paid Livingston $100 to enter the hotel room to engage in sexual activities."
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    Re: TSA Manager Arrested for Running Prostitution Ring

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Organizations require skills. Skills come with personalities.
    Wait I get it.. someone who is skilled at groping has to be a certain personality type, one that likes being able to take advantage of people...pimps fit that bill to a "t". Pimping is the ideal breeding ground for this sort of person. Plus they have a lot of hands on skills with the groping as a result of their pimping.

    For sure.. What better pool of candidates for TSA jobs are there? Obviously they go out of their way to hire pimps because of their unique skill set
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    Re: TSA Manager Arrested for Running Prostitution Ring

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Wait I get it.. someone who is skilled at groping has to be a certain personality type, one that likes being able to take advantage of people...pimps fit that bill to a "t". Pimping is the ideal breeding ground for this sort of person. Plus they have a lot of hands on skills with the groping as a result of their pimping.

    For sure.. What better pool of candidates for TSA jobs are there? Obviously they go out of their way to hire pimps because of their unique skill set
    Are you saying there's someone better than pimps to be hired, or that thorough people should quit the TSA and become pimps?

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    Re: TSA Manager Arrested for Running Prostitution Ring

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Well, it does sort of focus on logistics, coordination and customer service... of a sort.
    I'd love to see that in an interview...


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    Re: TSA Manager Arrested for Running Prostitution Ring

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Actually, the point was "liberals" don't care about civil liberties, and conservatives are doing the heavy lifting for them.
    Look back in history to 2001 when the TSA was created. Who controlled the government?


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