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    Re: Bill Maher Blames "The Democrats" For Trayvon Martin Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    What I've seen is not so much a defense of Zimmerman, but more people saying "we weren't there, let's look at all the facts objectively" and if I have "defended" Zimmerman, it's from claims that he should just be shot on sight. It's funny that after the Ft. Hood shooting we were exhorted by Obama (among others) not to "rush to judgment," but, in this case, where there actually is a potential for a legit self defense claim, the very same people (including Obama) do not say anything about "violent rhetoric" (as they did right after the Giffords shooting) when someone has actually put a bounty on Zimmeman's head. Why do you suppose that is?
    Because a rush to judgement only works one way and not the other? Sorry for the obvious answer X I just needed to type it out.... the frothy emotional outrage on the Treyvon issue in general is amazing. Multiple murders have taken place near the same time as this equally or more heinious and tragic. Yet the only one we're now talking about for a month is the one which curiously, Obama has weighed in on.

    A 9 month old baby was shot and killed in Detroit.
    A national issue? Obama comment on this one? NBPP offering a reward for the killer? No on all counts.

    Bill Mahr - is he interjecting his commentary on the tragic 9 month old being shot by a walk by shooter with a rifle? Not a chance. Commenting on the Detroit story helps Mahr zero - no one cares except those intimately involved sad to say. Mahr must address the big issues of the day so he can do whatever he can, throw anyone he can under the bus, and make more outrageous statements to increase his viewers, thereby increase his personal wealth and relevance. Mahr cares about Mahr and no one else.... if Mahr could find a way to make a few bucks off of Treyvon's death he'll do it. Ultimately he's a far left liberal opportunist who tries to convince others he's something else. He's the studio version of the street shell game.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Bill Maher Blames "The Democrats" For Trayvon Martin Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    What I've seen is not so much a defense of Zimmerman, but more people saying "we weren't there, let's look at all the facts objectively" and if I have "defended" Zimmerman, it's from claims that he should just be shot on sight. It's funny that after the Ft. Hood shooting we were exhorted by Obama (among others) not to "rush to judgment," but, in this case, where there actually is a potential for a legit self defense claim, the very same people (including Obama) do not say anything about "violent rhetoric" (as they did right after the Giffords shooting) when someone has actually put a bounty on Zimmeman's head. Why do you suppose that is?
    These are all very good points, and I think you are right--those folks who have put a bounty on Zimmerman's head should face legal action, if you ask me (Is it legal for private citizens to put bounties on one another?).

    But generally speaking, I also think that folks should at least try to be sympathetic to the race-angle, even if they ultimatly judge it to be materially irrelevant (as I do). From the perspective of African Americans in Sanford county, they are seeing--for the second time in the last few years--that young black men can be killed with impunity, so long as the shooter claims self-defense.

    Now, the Martin/Zimmerman case is not looking quite as clear as the Travares Mcgill case, where a black teenage boy was shot in the back by a police officer's son who claimed self defense--that case ended up being thrown out of court.

    I'm not saying that any of this warrants calling for Zimmerman's head, or assuming his guilt, or anything like this.

    I'm just saying that if you can't see how a community gets so emotional when they have probable reason to assume that they are not being protected by the laws (rightly or wrongly), then you are not thinking hard about the various perspectives that there are in this case.
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    Re: Bill Maher Blames "The Democrats" For Trayvon Martin Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    How so? Where you even born yet?
    U think the media circus over this has no goal?and yes,I was all ready an adult,been to the towers before and after the event.many times.
    Listen to your conscience....and let it sink in.

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    Re: Bill Maher Blames "The Democrats" For Trayvon Martin Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Fubar View Post
    U think the media circus over this has no goal?and yes,I was all ready an adult,been to the towers before and after the event.many times.

    Good for you, but you really think this shooting, is as big as 911?


    That's just silly.... You are being dramatic, right?
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    Re: Bill Maher Blames "The Democrats" For Trayvon Martin Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Good for you, but you really think this shooting, is as big as 911?


    That's just silly.... You are being dramatic, right?
    Can't you see where 3000 people murdered by terrorists is the same as one man killed while he was assaulting another?
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    Re: Bill Maher Blames "The Democrats" For Trayvon Martin Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Good for you, but you really think this shooting, is as big as 911?


    That's just silly.... You are being dramatic, right?
    I realize that.its just a feeling.I think its a distraction.
    Listen to your conscience....and let it sink in.

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    Re: Bill Maher Blames "The Democrats" For Trayvon Martin Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Can't you see where 3000 people murdered by terrorists is the same as one man killed while he was assaulting another?
    ...Truthers

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    Re: Bill Maher Blames "The Democrats" For Trayvon Martin Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    ...Truthers
    Eyes wide shut.
    Listen to your conscience....and let it sink in.

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