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Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

Tigger said:
That's fine. I'm not here to entertain OR enlighten you, so that's your problem not mine.



I've never been a big "people person". I find most people are not worth investing my time in. Besides, "God" and I parted company a little over a decade ago. Something about a breach of contract issue.
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I'm not sure you are not trying real hard to be entertaining. As for God, fine. But people need people. What was that about no man being an island?
 
Tigger said:
That's fine. I'm not here to entertain OR enlighten you, so that's your problem not mine.
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But you're such a joy to have around!

I've never been a big "people person".
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Ya don't say?

Besides, "God" and I parted company a little over a decade ago. Something about a breach of contract issue.
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Mine was misuse of resources.
 
jamesrage said:
If it didn't take 10-20 years to execute many of those criminals we could be number one or two. I am sure scumbag sympathizers will see being one of the top 5 as a bad thing.
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You are thinking wrong, It will be happen with in 2 uears
 
Boo Radley said:
As for God, fine. But people need people. What was that about no man being an island?
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No man can truly be an island all alone, but a smart man exists as part of an archepelago (a loose collection of islands) rather than as part of the mainland.
 
Tigger said:
No man can truly be an island all alone, but a smart man exists as part of an archepelago (a loose collection of islands) rather than as part of the mainland.
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Not so sure the distinction means that much to me, but as long as you understand a certain amount of interconnectedness we share, OK.
 
Wiseone said:
I don't understand why the death penalty is so popular, I don't see how it accomplishes anything. As you say it can take decades to put into affects, the costs of keeping a prisoner alive for that time plus legal costs to the government cost far far far more than keeping him alive for life. And it doesn't seem to deter any of the crimes that can bring the death penalty.

Moral arguments aside, what are the practical reasons for the death penalty?
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Dead people don't commit any more crimes. Dead people don't try to escape. Dead people are no longer a threat to society or their fellow prisoners.

I am in favor of expanding the death penalty to include rapist, child molesters, drug dealers that push thier crap onto kids and anyone who commits premeditated murder or kills someone while committing another felony. Get rid of this "special circumstances" nonsense.
 
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Tigger said:
Sick alright. Sick and tired of throwing up in my mouth every time I look at the society that surrounds me on a daily basis. The stupidity, the immorality, and the shreer insanity of the vast majority of human beings I run into on a daily basis is stunning to me.
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Well there's certainly a solution for that.
 
Boo Radley said:
Not so sure the distinction means that much to me, but as long as you understand a certain amount of interconnectedness we share, OK.
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We share a certain amount of interconnectedness because there is no other option, Boo. That's why I suggest the archiopelago as the best example of how society should work. Each island is its own separate landmass. The other islands may be closer or further away from the island you're on than another island is. It is possible to make the trip between them when necessary, but also very easy to maintain the separation when that is prefered.

Ikari said:
Well there's certainly a solution for that.
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Yeah, but there's already a shortage of ammunition this year; where am I going to come up with 270,000,000 bullets?
 
German guy said:
I think the best pragmatic reason against the death penalty is that innocents get indeed wrongly convicted and executed. Even the best systems has flaws. If they got a different sentence, this error could be made up by releasing and compensating them -- you can't do that with dead people and innocent blood will be on your hands.
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There is an easy solution to this problem, unfortunately, we are prohibited from using it because our constitution protects against self incrimination. If we simply shot them up with truth serum. Yes, I know the current versions are not 100% reliable, we could research better ones, if we create good ones, then the military and the CIA could use them for interrogation. We could make it optional, give them one last chance to prove their innocense.
 
Tigger said:
Yeah, but there's already a shortage of ammunition this year; where am I going to come up with 270,000,000 bullets?
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You just need one.
 
Ikari said:
You just need one.
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That is another option, and one that has been planned for. It's got my initials engraved on the side of the .45ACP, 230 gr. JHP.
 
muciti said:
USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

Lets get to number 1 and stop coddling murderers. Start executing rapists.
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Yeah, dammit! Are we going to let Iran and Saudi Arabia out-barbarian us?!
 
DVSentinel said:
Dead people don't commit any more crimes. Dead people don't try to escape. Dead people are no longer a threat to society or their fellow prisoners.

I am in favor of expanding the death penalty to include rapist, child molesters, drug dealers that push thier crap onto kids and anyone who commits premeditated murder or kills someone while committing another felony. Get rid of this "special circumstances" nonsense.
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Dead people don't do lots of things, I guess you could say they don't do anything by virtue of being dead. The fact that dead people don't do things is no reason to make people dead.
 
Wiseone said:
Dead people don't do lots of things, I guess you could say they don't do anything by virtue of being dead. The fact that dead people don't do things is no reason to make people dead.
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It is, if them still being alive is a threat to the wellbeing and safety of society. Other than execution, there is no 100% guaranteed way to ensure that the public is safe from these ciminals. Only execution gives us that 100% saftey.
 
DVSentinel said:
It is, if them still being alive is a threat to the wellbeing and safety of society. Other than execution, there is no 100% guaranteed way to ensure that the public is safe from these ciminals. Only execution gives us that 100% saftey.
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There is no aggregated safety gained through use of the death penalty.
 
haymarket said:
Why does there need to be?
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then what purpose does it serve

is the prospect of the death penalty what prevents you from killing
 
muciti said:
Why punish anyone for anything?
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that is how you see it
either kill them or do nothing


i do hope you and that view are in the distinct minority
 
Yayyy the "beacon of hope and freedom and opportunity" is in the top 5 for killing its own citizens!!! :party

Just remember if you come to this great country of ours, the gov might kill ya!
 
Ikari said:
There is no aggregated safety gained through use of the death penalty.
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So no prisoner has ever escaped and committed more crimes? Lets narrow that down, since murder is the only current capital offence, no murderer has ever escaped and committed more acts of murder?
 
Ikari said:
There is no aggregated safety gained through use of the death penalty.
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Please show me the executed criminal who has EVER committed another crime after their execution? Gotten a parking ticket? Talked back to a cop?

THAT is where the level of safety in society improves..... by taking the mad dog out of it before he/she bites someone AGAIN.
 
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