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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I think we should go for the gold here and try for number #1.
    We're already #1 in the number of prisoners.
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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Hey, I'll take 99 innocent executions to make sure we get every guilty one.
    Well, I think you can be safely ignored on this subject.
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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Show me an executed prisoner who is/was truly innocent. Not just of the crime he/she was charged with, but truly innocent. I doubt you could actually find one.
    Of course we can't -- because it is in the best interests of the authorities to let sleeping dogs lie once someone has been executed. There's no way anyone could convince them to go digging around in a capital murder case after the fact. Not only would it be humiliating for them, it would be the end of capital punishment.
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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Only if you commit a capatil murder.
    Right and if your proven guilty, and if it was a faulty trial and there is proof that you didnt do it, we still kill ya anyways!


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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    It's fine if you wish to put more interest in the process of Legality than in the idea of Justice. Just please don't ever suggest that we have a Justice system in this country. What we have is a Legal system. Nothing more.
    I don't think I've ever asserted that we actually have an honest-to-Bob justice system. Many of my objections to how the system crushes lives without regard to a sense of proportion fit quite nicely into the above characterization.

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    The system is more interested in the fact that some $10 an hour clerk mistyped the address on a search warrant
    I think you might have missed this Supreme Court ruling:

    United States v. Leon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    or if he (a lifelong resident of the US) was read his Miranda rights in the proper dialect of Spanish, because he doesn't actually speak ENGLISH
    You don't think it's reasonable to expect a police officer to verify that someone does in fact comprehend the Miranda warning as read to them?
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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    So no prisoner has ever escaped and committed more crimes? Lets narrow that down, since murder is the only current capital offence, no murderer has ever escaped and committed more acts of murder?
    Not on any large aggregated scale, no. Particularly from modern day maximum security prisons. Escape is very rare. And the isolated cases which do occur do not occur with enough frequency to cause an aggregated decline in "safety".
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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Please show me the executed criminal who has EVER committed another crime after their execution? Gotten a parking ticket? Talked back to a cop?

    THAT is where the level of safety in society improves..... by taking the mad dog out of it before he/she bites someone AGAIN.
    This is a fairly stupid and intellectually dishonest argument. At the point at which you drop these forms of hysterics is the point at which we can have a real dialog. Until then, have fun with your crazy; but I ain't interested.
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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why does there need to be?
    So that there is some form of functional purpose.
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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Wait 'till the government decides to dub people "terrorists" and start executing them without trial.
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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Wait 'till the government decides to dub people "terrorists" and start executing them without trial.
    how will we know
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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