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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why does there need to be?
    There doesn't. But then again, you can't use it as an argument for having it.

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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Yayyy the "beacon of hope and freedom and opportunity" is in the top 5 for killing its own citizens!!!

    Just remember if you come to this great country of ours, the gov might kill ya!


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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yayyy the "beacon of hope and freedom and opportunity" is in the top 5 for killing its own citizens!!!

    Just remember if you come to this great country of ours, the gov might kill ya!
    Only if you commit a capatil murder.

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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There is no aggregated safety gained through use of the death penalty.
    So no prisoner has ever escaped and committed more crimes? Lets narrow that down, since murder is the only current capital offence, no murderer has ever escaped and committed more acts of murder?

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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There is no aggregated safety gained through use of the death penalty.
    Please show me the executed criminal who has EVER committed another crime after their execution? Gotten a parking ticket? Talked back to a cop?

    THAT is where the level of safety in society improves..... by taking the mad dog out of it before he/she bites someone AGAIN.

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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If it didn't take 10-20 years to execute many of those criminals we could be number one or two. I am sure scumbag sympathizers will see being one of the top 5 as a bad thing.
    You know what I love most about any debate on any aspect of criminal justice?

    It so often boils down to those of us who object to something the government is doing in the name of fighting crime being called "scumbag sympathizers" or something equally asinine.

    Because yes, of course, if we disagree with you it means we're BFFs with the robbers, rapists and murders.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Because yes, of course, if we disagree with you it means we're BFFs with the robbers, rapists and murders.
    It's fine if you wish to put more interest in the process of Legality than in the idea of Justice. Just please don't ever suggest that we have a Justice system in this country. What we have is a Legal system. Nothing more. The system is more interested in the fact that some $10 an hour clerk mistyped the address on a search warrant or if he (a lifelong resident of the US) was read his Miranda rights in the proper dialect of Spanish, because he doesn't actually speak ENGLISH; than on whether or not that the individual is actually guilty of the crime they are charged with. I think THAT is what most of us are furious about. Until we return to the idea of a JUSTICE system, that's not going to change.

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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    America's 43 executions in 2011 ranked it fifth in the world in capital punishment,
    Huh, I wonder why they chose to rank without consideration of population size. Could it be because the US has the third largest population, and by making the conversion we'd fall from #5 to who knows where - #18? #30? We're "in the company of" Saudi Arabia and Iraq, who had more executions but have populations about a 10th of our own? Same goes for Iran with a quarter of our population. Now China has about 4x our population, but they're thought to have executed "thousands" according to Amnesty International, whereas we executed 43. How exactly does that put us in the same company?
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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Please show me the executed criminal who has EVER committed another crime after their execution? Gotten a parking ticket? Talked back to a cop?
    Show me study that shows the death penalty is an actual deterant against further crime.
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    Re: Report: US Ranks 5th in Global Executions

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The fact is the main purpose of the justice system is to punish offenders,so the death penalty serving as the ultimate punishment is practical. It is the scumbag sympathizer argument that criminals are somehow sick and that prisons should serve as something like a hospital for criminals.
    I'm always entertained by small-government conservatives complaining about the nanny government on the one hand and citing "punishment" as one of the roles of government on the other -- Like it's our mommy and daddy or something.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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