Trayvon had no juvenile record. Yes, he had a school suspension.
George had some incidences with the law on domestic violence and a squirmish with a law officer in which he was charged.
None of this really is relevant to this case.
The facts we have are ....
George continued to pursue an unarmed skinny kid heading home from a store with nothing but skittles. In fact, George himself reports to the dispatcher he is following the kid ... the kid looks at him and then runs away. George actually describes this in his call and then claims "they always get away". George knew an officer was arriving on the scene.
Cell phone records from the gf back up the time and the gf reports basically the same story George reported ... that Trayvon notices george following and runs away.
Within a few minutes Trayvon has a fatal injury and George is observed STANDING on Trayvon and makes no attmept to call for medical aid.
Questions ... the lawyer reports that George self describes his injuries.
Are there any documentation of such injuries? We know Trayvon had a fatal injury. Where is the medical report of George's injuries?
George weighed almost twice as much and was following an unarmed minor despite breaking the neighborhood watch rules and disobeying the direction of the 911 dispatcher.
Traybon will have a drug and ETOH test from his autopsy.
Did police do a drug and ETOH test on the man who followed and shot Traybon?
The first witness to the scene reported she saw no scuffle (just heard a kid crying) and found George with his foot on top of the kid. She said police spoke to her for a few minutes and in her mind seemed to readily accept George's version. At that point they never contacted her again.
If Trayvon had been of legal age and had a legal concealed weapon ... would he have been supported by the NRA if scared of the big guy following and harassing him he had just shot him and stood on his body?
this fact alone, gives Martin the right to Stand His Ground.
however, we do not know if Martin approached Zimmerman. That is only an unsubstantiated claim.
based on this, the only person who clearly has SYG on his side, is Martin.
why? because we KNOW for a FACT, that Zimmerman was following him in his car & on foot.
I'm good with armed neighborhood watch IF those people are properly trained. This case does not describe someone who was properly trained.
Trayvon Martin’s shooter had a domestic violence altercation in 2005 - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com
You can't use pot as a reference point towards violent behavior. The two aren't related.See the OP links
How does the possibility of Martin smoking pot relate to this situation? I wonder if him sneaking a swig of beer when he was 15 also related to him being violent?I'm sorry you're ignorant of the law. There's nothing I can do other than point it out over and over to you. Please educate yourself on Character Witnesses in the U.S. legal system.
A man without fear is a fool, a man that succumbs to his fear is a coward and a brave man acknowledges fear yet presses on.
Anything else? Zimmerman pull a gun on anyone? Police reports of drugs? Bar fights? Arrests?
A domestic certainly shows Zimmerman could become violent - towards women. I was hoping for more.
“I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.
P.S. I don't ever remember seeing a thread as active as this: 14 Members and 9 Guests. Maybe I just never noticed before....?
Last edited by MaggieD; 03-27-12 at 11:09 AM.
Thank you, Quazi!