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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The girlfriend's recount of her call with Martin is that it was Martin who confronted Zimmerman.....
    that is simply untrue.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Oh? What violent facts about Zimmerman are there - please link to them....
    he beat a cop, beat his ex-girlfriend, and had a restraining order placed on him.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Oh? What violent facts about Zimmerman are there - please link to them.
    Trayvon Martin’s shooter had a domestic violence altercation in 2005 - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    he beat a cop, beat his ex-girlfriend, and had a restraining order placed on him.

    None of which proves that in THIS CASE, Zimmerman was the aggressor. And no, following someone that is suspicious looking or acting is not aggressive.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Chris Tutko, director of Neighborhood Watch for the National Sheriffs' Association, said Zimmerman broke some cardinal rules.

    First, he approached a stranger he suspected of wrongdoing.

    "If you see something suspicious, you report it, you step aside and you let law enforcement do their job," Tutko said. "This guy went way beyond the call of duty. At the least, he's overzealous."

    Trayvon Martin: Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman broke Neighborhood Watch gun rules - chicagotribune.com

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Its not absurd at all. I was responding to someone claiming if Zimmerman had done nothing, it a truism that nothing would have happened. The unknown is known. He can fatasize of utopia alternatives so then I can fantasize of dystopian alternatives.
    But you can "if, if, if" your way to infinity. IF a child grows up, and IF he makes some bad choices, and IF he falls under the questionable teaching of some guys idea of the Koran, then MAYBE he becomes the next Osama bin Laden.

    That doesn't mean you give his mother a medal for having an abortion instead.

    IF Trayvon Martin was a criminal and IF he was up to no good, then MAYBE Zimmerman was right to think that he was suspicious. He was still wrong to go after him. It is possible to murder a criminal.


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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    None of which proves that in THIS CASE, Zimmerman was the aggressor. And no, following someone that is suspicious looking or acting is not aggressive.
    Ah, so the character assassination of Treyvon is okay? The moment someone brings up bad **** about Zimmerman's past, all bets are off.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Chris Tutko, director of Neighborhood Watch for the National Sheriffs' Association, said Zimmerman broke some cardinal rules.

    First, he approached a stranger he suspected of wrongdoing.

    "If you see something suspicious, you report it, you step aside and you let law enforcement do their job," Tutko said. "This guy went way beyond the call of duty. At the least, he's overzealous."

    Trayvon Martin: Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman broke Neighborhood Watch gun rules - chicagotribune.com
    Noone said Zimmerman was smart, however, those rules are not LEGALLY binding.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    None of which proves that in THIS CASE, Zimmerman was the aggressor. And no, following someone that is suspicious looking or acting is not aggressive.
    sure it is.

    if yuo follow someone in a car and then on foot, that person can justificably fear for his safety..and defend himself with violence, if you approach him.

    if you follow me in your car and on foot in Florida, and then approach me, I have the legal right to deck you. In Florida..that is.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Ah, so the character assassination of Treyvon is okay? The moment someone brings up bad **** about Zimmerman's past, all bets are off.
    Seriously, show me where I have done that or condoned ANY character assasination of either Zimmerman or Trayvon.

    So you're of the mindset if someone does something wrong, it's ok for you to?

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