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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    it is a FACT that Zimmerman was following Martin in his car and on foot.

    This is not an allegation. It is a fact verified by Zimmerman's own admission.
    but it is not a fact that he intended to, or did confront Martin. the facts lead to Martin confronting Zimmerman

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Zimmerman was following & looking for Martin in his car and on foot. This is a fact that is verified by Zimmerman's own admission.
    And he didn't find him, which is his story, and its backed up by the 911 call. Then the remainder of his story, is corroborated by witnesses, according to authorities.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Anyone recognize this black teen? He killed an old white guy in Spokane Washington. Treven Lewis is his very similar name, where's the outrage?


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    Good luck with that... media couldn't care less and Obama just can't relate to old white men you see.
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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Mostly I agree with you. But I'm not sure if he was white and wearing a hoodie that this would have ended the same. I do think our perceptions are often based on stereotypes and those can and often do have a bit of race in them.
    Of course they do. It would be impossible for human beings not to be effected by stereotypes -- in spite of what political correctness keeps insisting. Learning who our enemies are and being extra vigilant against them is what's kept us alive for tens of thousands of years.
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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Did I use the word order? Odd choice of wording you're using. I said told, as in stated. Order versus suggested? He was told to leave him alone. He chose not to. This gives him a certain amount of responsibility. It being legal to seek and try to start trouble has nothing to do with what I've said or argued.
    Once again for the 100x time - Order, told, suggest, instruct, etc, etc

    Some dude or gal behind a phone...aka dispatcher. Their words have no basis in law

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Good luck with that... media couldn't care less and Obama just can't relate to old white men you see.
    I was going to answer him, but I think I'll answer here. This is not comparable. I don't expect every death to be commented on. Just as when missing little white girls get more press than missing little black girls (as some have pointed out in the past). Events largely lead to news stories, and how they happen and progress. Making such comparisons as he did is just silly.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Martin wasn't even partially wholesome if the reports are accurate. Burglary tools? Pot pipe? Allegedly swinging at a bus driver? Suspended three times since Feb? Sounds like it shows at least the beginnings of a pattern... It's not irrelevant - it goes to the character of the alleged victim and is in no way attacking in any sense. These are facts - you may see them as an attack because you have sympathy, but that sympathy is irrelevant.
    Yup, attacking the victim with irrelevancies. Keep up the quality work. Here, let me give you a hint: the victim's character is not an issue, his actions that night are. He could be a gang banging, date raping, purse snatching asshole, and if he did nothing wrong on the night he was killed, then the only thing that matters is that he did nothing wrong the night he was killed.
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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Of course they do. It would be impossible for human beings not to be effected by stereotypes -- in spite of what political correctness keeps insisting. Learning who our enemies are and being extra vigilant against them is what's kept us alive for tens of thousands of years.
    True. But it also leads us to mistakenly view something as a threat that isn't. I know nothing about political correctness, which today seems to be more an excuse not to behave well, but I do know that we can and do misjudge situations. And doing so when armed can have tragic results. At least when that vigilance isn't matched with temperance and good sense.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    And he didn't find him, which is his story, and its backed up by the 911 call.
    No, it isn't backed up by 911 calls.
    Then the remainder of his story, is corroborated by witnesses, according to authorities.
    You mean the same authority that didn't bother with taking the weapon, pictures, the victims cell phone, pictures of the shooter or victim, running toxicology on the shooter, etc? Those authorities?
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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Once again for the 100x time - Order, told, suggest, instruct, etc, etc

    Some dude or gal behind a phone...aka dispatcher. Their words have no basis in law
    Which changes nothing I'm arguing. You can be responsible and not held so legally.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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