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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Hate to break it to you, but nothing in how he was suspended has anything whatsoever to do with how he acted the night he was killed. Further, owning a baggie and a screwdriver do not make some one violent. Don't let facts get in your way.
    Did Zimmerman have Martin's school records in front of him? Doubtful.

    Getting out of your car isn't illegal. Fine. Neither is possession of a screwdriver.


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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    this is incorrect. we only know for sure that Zimmerman intended to monitor from a distance, not confront....
    that is Zimmerman's claim.

    it has yet to be determind if he is telling the truth.

    their is evidence that he is full of ****.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Did I use the word order? Odd choice of wording you're using. I said told, as in stated. Order versus suggested? He was told to leave him alone. He chose not to. This gives him a certain amount of responsibility. It being legal to seek and try to start trouble has nothing to do with what I've said or argued.
    LEGAL actions do not bear illegal actions being taken. Therefore no, by the fact of Zimmerman following and getting out of the car LEGALLY, does it warrant an illegal action being taken against him if that is what happened afterword.

    Trayvon, could have called the police as well. In fact, if he did, he might be alive today.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not remotely the same. Sorry. Good try at comparing apples to tree frogs. This is someone seeking trouble, confrontation. this is not someone minding their own business.

    Some think that wearing provocative outfits is seeking trouble. Quite similiar.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    their is evidence that he is full of ****.

    and that evidence has not been shown as fact either. So the evidence could be full of **** too.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, he followed and got out of the vehicle. He was told to leave him alone. Not to follow.
    Being told not to do something is an order, he was not ordered to do anything.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    and that evidence has not been shown as fact either. So the evidence could be full of **** too.
    that evidence is from the 911 tape. the 911 tape is full of ****?

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Hate to break it to you, but nothing in how he was suspended has anything whatsoever to do with how he acted the night he was killed. Further, owning a baggie and a screwdriver do not make some one violent. Don't let facts get in your way.
    You are correct, it has nothing to do with the night he was killed. The only thing it does is it explains why he was there (in Orlando instead of Miami-Dade) and it provides insight into his life and background. It seems the wholesome dead boy wasn't quite as wholesome as people were led to believe. One report in the OP links identified he was suspended 3 times and had burglary tools? That gives at least a little creedance to Zimmermans report that Martin was acting suspicious - it's now at least possible that Martin was indeed acting suspicious given the history.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    that is Zimmerman's claim.

    it has yet to be determind if he is telling the truth.

    their is evidence that he is full of ****.
    There is evidence that he isn't full of it. The police have confirmed that they have multiple witnesses that back up key points of his account of events.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin - burglary tools and illegal drugs possession...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick, replying to another View Post
    Give me a break and get over yourself. None of your bull**** changes the fact that this kid would still be alive if Zimmerman had listened to the 911 operator and left the kid alone. Zimmerman should face the consequences of his actions.
    See that bull**** excuse is just that. You could also easily say that if the kid went straight home, he would be alive as well.

    The fact is up until right after Zimmerman got out of the car, everything that Zimmerman had done was LEGAL and did not cause the death of that kid. What happened afterwords we don't know all the facts as to whom to place the guilt to.
    The fact is, Martin was stalked because he was black. Dr_Patrick is exactly right in that the course of events that led to Martin's death was initiated by Zimmerman. Legality has nothing to do with it; Martin was minding his own business and doing nothing wrong. Zimmerman was not.

    That this even has to be explained illustrates the latent racism that still exists in this country.

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