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Ok, someone already posted the definition of murder. So that leaves the definition as to whether the zygote/fetus is a person. What do we know about it from science?

1. The cells after conception (initial splitting of the fetilized egg) are living cells.

2. Those cells are human.

3. Those cells exist because a human egg was fertilized by a human sperm.

4. Those cells have a unique identifiable DNA structure not matching any other human being. Therefore, those cells belong to a unique human being, called a person. Even if that person is only made up of two cells instead of hundreds of trillions of cells (or however many actually exist in a person, don't thing anyone ever sat down and counted them). While we cannot actually perform a DNA test on just two cells, that would be too small a sample and would kill the two cells in question, we know that those two cells have that unique DNA structure because ever human being grows through their cells dividing. Those two cells have to contain the unique DNA structure because we can later test cells, when it doesn't cause the death of all the cells making up the person, and every cell that will ever make up a person comes from the division of the fertilized egg into those first two cells.

5. Those cells have a chromosome pair that determine the sex of the person those cells belong to.

6. Abortion, whether by medical means or by usning "the morning after pill" is a deliberate act to kill the person who is made up of those cells.

7. The deliberate killing of a human being is murder.

Conclusion from this, Abortion is murder, whether it is called that or not because science can prove beyond any doubt, through genetic testing, that a unique human being exists, even if that human being in question is only made up of two cells, they are living, they are human, they are genetically a new human being.


another long post that does absolutely nothing to change the fact that abortion is NOT murder LMAO

this is not fantasy land, there are facts and then there are opinions LMAO

luckily in this country you are free to have the opinion abortion is murder but that opinion is factually wrong LMAO

aslo for the record just to add insult to your injury, saying a ZEF is a person is also just your opinion LMAO

thanks IM glad you gave me your opinion, you are free to have it, ill stick with facts :shrug:
 
wow thanks for explaining how you falsely come to your inaccurate nonfactual OPINION
I'm simply explaining why I thought what I thought. Sure it's non-factual.. what else would it be?

and thanks for also posting the definition of murder that supports me 100%
I could hardly explain why without posting it. Whether or not it supports you or not is irrelevant to why I posted it.

the facts remain abortion is not murder and I have ZERO quilt about that LMAO
I'm glad you're so okay with legalized murder. Good for you!

you are free to disagree you are just wrong.:shrug:
I'm free to have my own opinion. You are free to live in denial... I'm okay with that if you are. :shrug:
 
another long post that does absolutely nothing to change the fact that abortion is NOT murder LMAO

this is not fantasy land, there are facts and then there are opinions LMAO

luckily in this country you are free to have the opinion abortion is murder but that opinion is factually wrong LMAO

aslo for the record just to add insult to your injury, saying a ZEF is a person is also just your opinion LMAO

thanks IM glad you gave me your opinion, you are free to have it, ill stick with facts :shrug:

When you get really uncomfortable and nervous you tend to use LMAO after every sentence, don't you.
 
When you get really uncomfortable and nervous you tend to use LMAO after every sentence, don't you.

LMAO nope I post that for 2 reasons, when I read something funny or post something funny

for example I found your post humorous because of how wrong of a guess it was and there was no logical backing to even make a guess like you did. Thats funny :)

but there are many reason I find things funny.
 
LMAO nope I post that for 2 reasons, when I read something funny or post something funny

for example I found your post humorous because of how wrong of a guess it was and there was no logical backing to even make a guess like you did. Thats funny :)
What's funnier is your inability to discern the difference between an opinion and a guess.

but there are many reason I find things funny.
I choose to read your posts not because they're funny but because it's entertaining... like watching a squirrel searching for buried nuts.
 
I'm simply explaining why I thought what I thought. Sure it's non-factual.. what else would it be?

I could hardly explain why without posting it. Whether or not it supports you or not is irrelevant to why I posted it.

I'm glad you're so okay with legalized murder. Good for you!

I'm free to have my own opinion. You are free to live in denial... I'm okay with that if you are. :shrug:

wow more factually inaccurate stuff lol
1.) im not ok with legalized murder because there is no such thing LMAO
2.) im not in denial about "legalize murder" or "abortion"

but hey I am ok with you having yet MORE factually inaccurate opinions :shrug:

just add them to the list :lamo
 
wow more factually inaccurate stuff lol
1.) im not ok with legalized murder because there is no such thing LMAO
Sure there is. When a killing is sanctioned, it's legal. That's a fact since you're into facts. And murder... well, we already defined that didn't we.
2.) im not in denial about "legalize murder" or "abortion"
Would someone in denial deny their denial or admit it.... hmm.... probably deny it is my guess. Thanks for proving my point! :thumbs:

but hey I am ok with you having yet MORE factually inaccurate opinions :shrug:
Inaccurate to you, the person in denial.... now THAT'S funny.

just add them to the list :lamo
You're not important enough for a list dude... also funny.
 
What's funnier is your inability to discern the difference between an opinion and a guess.

I choose to read your posts not because they're funny but because it's entertaining... like watching a squirrel searching for buried nuts.

so you asked a question and you are claiming you were posting an opinion? hahahahahaha

you said "When you get really uncomfortable and nervous you tend to use LMAO after every sentence, don't you."


seems like a question so Id say yes you were guessing, BUT either way whether it was a guess or an opinion it was still hilarious because it had no logical backing :D

and there it is!!!! lmao Oh the irony

when a person cant logically defend their false claims or thier emotions get the better of them because someone isnt buy their BS they resort to failed attacks and can no longer be civil :laughat:
 
Sure there is. When a killing is sanctioned, it's legal. That's a fact since you're into facts. And murder... well, we already defined that didn't we.
Would someone in denial deny their denial or admit it.... hmm.... probably deny it is my guess. Thanks for proving my point! :thumbs:

Inaccurate to you, the person in denial.... now THAT'S funny.


You're not important enough for a list dude... also funny.
nope no such thing, the definition wont allowed it

if its legal it in fact cant be murder LMAO

more failed insults because you have no logical avenue to defend your false claims, keep it up this if great!!:popcorn2:
 
so you asked a question and you are claiming you were posting an opinion? hahahahahaha

you said "When you get really uncomfortable and nervous you tend to use LMAO after every sentence, don't you."
Questions can be rhetorical... and provide an opinion. See I'm educating you... for free. You should be happy. Yes, just an observation on your over use of LMAO... I think you should use it in ever other word to show how comical you are.

seems like a question so Id say yes you were guessing, BUT either way whether it was a guess or an opinin it was still halarious because it had no logical backing :D
I'm glad your having a good time. It's important that you enjoy your education and be enthusiastic about it.

and there it is!!!! lmao Oh the irony

when a person cant logically defend their false claims or thier emotions get the better of them because someone isnt buy thier BS they resort to failed attacks :laughat:
What attack? Oh is this the part where you defer and start accusing? I'm sensing your lack of LAMO's.... not good. You mad bro? Don't be mad... you'll find the nut.
 
nope no such thing, the definition wont allowed it
Definitions now have consciousness and "won't allow it". Kewl!

if its legal it in fact cant be murder LMAO
What is it then... maybe a nice word... termination. Or maybe something else. You think of a good word.

more failed insults because you have no logical avenue to defend your false claims, keep it up this if great!!:popcorn2:
I'm enjoying it immensely! Put up some more smilies and LMAO's... that's how I know things are going well.
 
Objective -- you have to reply faster. I'm getting bored.
 
1.)Questions can be rhetorical... and provide an opinion. See I'm educating you... for free. You should be happy. Yes, just an observation on your over use of LMAO... I think you should use it in ever other word to show how comical you are.

I'm glad your having a good time. It's important that you enjoy your education and be enthusiastic about it.

What attack? Oh is this the part where you defer and start accusing? I'm sensing your lack of LAMO's.... not good. You mad bro? Don't be mad... you'll find the nut.

LMAO

if you say so but that changes nothing about why your post was funny since it had no logical backing LOL

and the rest is exactly what I expected more failed insults, nothing civil, nothing logical.

then the irony of YOU asking ME if Im mad but you are the one all emotional with your failed attacks and insults :lamo

after all this abortion is still not murder, and your guess (opinion) still had no logical backing :shrug: let me know when that changes :D
 
Definitions now have consciousness and "won't allow it". Kewl!

What is it then... maybe a nice word... termination. Or maybe something else. You think of a good word.

I'm enjoying it immensely! Put up some more smilies and LMAO's... that's how I know things are going well.

yep by default the definition does not allow for your made up word :)

you can call it the termination of life if you wish, see that is factually accurate, murder is not :shrug:
 
There we go!

if you say so but that changes nothing about why your post was funny since it had no logical backing LOL
Which logical form are you referring to? Specify.

and the rest is exactly what I expected more failed insults, nothing civil, nothing logical.
More accusations... tsk tsk... you can do better!

then the irony of YOU asking ME if Im mad but you are the one all emotional with your failed attacks and insults :lamo
Apparently your not aware of what an insult is...

after all this abortion is still not murder, and your guess (opinion) still had no logical backing :shrug: let me know when that changes :D
See you're right... it's NOT murder, it's LEGALIZED murder. But you didn't choose a better word. How come? You still mad bro?
 
yep by default the definition does not allow for your made up word :)
You pick a non-made up word. I'll wait...

you can call it the termination of life if you wish, see that is factually accurate, murder is not :shrug:
We've already established it's not murder per the definition remember? It's legalized murder.
 
Objective -- you have to reply faster. I'm getting bored.

use the time to makes stuff up since it seems to be a common thing with you :shrug:

any thing factual or logical you wanna post yet?
 
There we go!

Which logical form are you referring to? Specify.

More accusations... tsk tsk... you can do better!

Apparently your not aware of what an insult is...

See you're right... it's NOT murder, it's LEGALIZED murder. But you didn't choose a better word. How come? You still mad bro?


no such thing as legalized murder
fact is once its legal it can not be murder :laughat:
 
You pick a non-made up word. I'll wait...

We've already established it's not murder per the definition remember? It's legalized murder.

nope its not that either

you could call it a legal killing if you like? cant be legal murder.
 
no such thing as legalized murder
fact is once its legal it can not be murder :laughat:

I thought we already addressed that.... what will we do with that denial of yours. See when a life that has done nothing wrong is "terminated" since you like that word, with malice aforethought for doing nothing but existing, and that action is not criminal ie., legalized. Then it's legalized murder.
 
I'm just going where your denial leads me.

You haven't addressed any of it yet. I think your anger is getting in the way.

addresses what your fantasy? LMAO

id did, I post facts you choose to ignore, thats cool with me, keeps me entertained
 
nope its not that either

you could call it a legal killing if you like? cant be legal murder.

Ok legalized killing then. See... I can compromise and we can agree. Legalized killing it is.
 
I thought we already addressed that.... what will we do with that denial of yours. See when a life that has done nothing wrong is "terminated" since you like that word, with malice aforethought for doing nothing but existing, and that action is not criminal ie., legalized. Then it's legalized murder.

nope thats more of your made up opinion LMAO

seems you have trouble with opinion and facts
 
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