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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I agree its wrong for policy makers to consider their potential re-elections when it comes to policy making, however its an inevitable fact of a democracy. Going all the way back to Athens when a bunch of Athenians put off the vote to attack the Spartans until after their elections. Or more recently in 2004, the last time we had an incumbent President running again, Bush put off the attack on Fallujah until just after the elections to avoid the negative press coverage of increased fighting and causalities.
    Good points. I have no idea what the "flexibilty" comment means. It could mean he will have a free hand or it could mean he doesn't have the time now to get deep into negotiatios.

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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    No, the correct question you should be asking yourself is, "Do I actually get it, or am I giving a knee-jerk reaction without cause or historical understanding?"

    You do realize that these conversations have occurred with all Presidents, right? .
    Oh no, Republicans would NEVER think of doing such a thing.

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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    U.S. Political News, Opinion and Analysis - HuffPost Politics

    "Obama's Doublespeak on Russian Missile Defense and Israel"

    "President Obama's recent open mic comments to President Medvedev of Russia are troubling, which explains why Obama and the White House have decided to make light of them. It seems that every time a microphone captures the president in unscripted remarks, he's saying something that goes against his own public pronouncements."

    "There was the famous incident in November, 2011, when French President Nicolas Sarkozy, not knowing his microphone was hot, expressed his contempt for Prime Minister Netanyahu, calling him a liar, with President Obama jumping in to commiserate, lamenting the fact that he has to deal with Netanyahu even more than the French."


    Could the Rabbi be right?

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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Oh no, Republicans would NEVER think of doing such a thing.
    Not sure what we are supposed to take out of this gem. Reasonable people should care that our Representative government acts this way regardless of party.

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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    In other words, when I'm re-elected, I've got nothing to lose.
    That would depend on how many seats the Democrats lose in the Senate and in the House. In 2010 they lost 63 in the House and 6 in the Senate. If they lose just 19 more in the House and 13 in the Senate, they will have a veto proof majority as well as the ability to impeach Obama if he gets too stupid.
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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    That would depend on how many seats the Democrats lose in the Senate and in the House. In 2010 they lost 63 in the House and 6 in the Senate. If they lose just 19 more in the House and 13 in the Senate, they will have a veto proof majority as well as the ability to impeach Obama if he gets too stupid.
    IYO, do you think the Repubs can pull those numbers in both houses? If that were to happen it would sure make it more difficult for President Obama to pull off, if that is his plan, another nuclear trade-off with Putin.

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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    No, the correct question you should be asking yourself is, "Do I actually get it, or am I giving a knee-jerk reaction without cause or historical understanding?"

    You do realize that these conversations have occurred with all Presidents, right? If you want more contemporary examples, study up on the Cold War talks. Each President has to deal with elections or other domestic concerns interfering with potential options the President has, almost all of which are not harmful to your country and may in fact actually be in favor of your country.
    You are asking way too much of people here to do that. But this is a good test of who has their head on straight. People who consider this a big deal are largely 1) Ignorant 2) Stupid 3) Partisan. People who don't give a **** about this generally 1) Educated about US politics 2) Educated about historical US politics 3) Sane.
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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    uh huh, sure...

    Putin knows he wouldn't get anywhere near what he wants if a Republican is elected (Yes even Romney is miles above Obama on national defense)
    Name a single item Romney is above Obama on in national defense. Just one if you can.

    Furthermore, you do realize that nothing we have can stop a Russian salvo no?

    Want to guess how many interceptors we have? Want to guess how many ICBMs with multiple MRVs Russia has? Want to guess how many ICBMs with multiple MRVs with decoy systems Russia has?

    We may has well just scrap the system now if we are planning to using it against Russia. The only way we can actually stop a Russian ICBM attack is to fill the skies with nuclear tipped interceptors and constantly fire them for months on end to ensure that nothing gets through.
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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    A real president, and a real man for that matter, would do his job according to what's needed regardless of it being an election year or not.
    Which means that no president since Lincoln has been a real President. The level of historical ignorance here is reaching Yahoo message boards level. That is frightening.
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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    U.S. Political News, Opinion and Analysis - HuffPost Politics

    "Obama's Doublespeak on Russian Missile Defense and Israel"

    "President Obama's recent open mic comments to President Medvedev of Russia are troubling, which explains why Obama and the White House have decided to make light of them. It seems that every time a microphone captures the president in unscripted remarks, he's saying something that goes against his own public pronouncements."

    "There was the famous incident in November, 2011, when French President Nicolas Sarkozy, not knowing his microphone was hot, expressed his contempt for Prime Minister Netanyahu, calling him a liar, with President Obama jumping in to commiserate, lamenting the fact that he has to deal with Netanyahu even more than the French."


    Could the Rabbi be right?
    Benny is a liar though. He promised to stop the building of illegal settlements which was the key point in the peace deal with Fatah. Want to know how many more illegal settlements are being built now?
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

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