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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    We DESPERATELY need a Trillion Dollar missile defense system that doesn't work. Think about those corporate profits!

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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Kind of a clumsy and stupid thing for him to say. You cannot say something like that and expect people not to speculate. Why would he say it if he didn't plan to steer the issue in Russia's favor? Logic folks. Then again if he basically lied and is going to push for the missle defense system anyway the statement still looks stupid and weak. Foreign relations has not been a feather in the presidents cap.

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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    Foreign relations has not been a feather in the presidents cap.
    Compared to our last President?

    Basically, Obama (Like every other two term president), WILL have more flexibility in his final term. No one knows what he means by his statement, but considering the relationship we seem to have with Russia, I think I will trust my President to know a bit more than I do.

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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Compared to our last President?

    Basically, Obama (Like every other two term president), WILL have more flexibility in his final term. No one knows what he means by his statement, but considering the relationship we seem to have with Russia, I think I will trust my President to know a bit more than I do.
    Why would you say that? His "flexibility" depends greatly on how congressional demographics play out. If things stayed pretty much the same, I doubt very much the President would have a great deal of flexibility on the issue..


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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Compared to our last President?

    Basically, Obama (Like every other two term president), WILL have more flexibility in his final term. No one knows what he means by his statement, but considering the relationship we seem to have with Russia, I think I will trust my President to know a bit more than I do.
    Try judging people on their own merit rather than using the crutch of how bad someone else might be. Bush isn't in charge. Obama is in charge. Move on.

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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Compared to our last President?

    Basically, Obama (Like every other two term president), WILL have more flexibility in his final term. No one knows what he means by his statement, but considering the relationship we seem to have with Russia, I think I will trust my President to know a bit more than I do.
    I think the question is: What did he mean by flexibility? More power? More control - believing he win back the House?

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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    Try judging people on their own merit rather than using the crutch of how bad someone else might be. Bush isn't in charge. Obama is in charge. Move on.
    Might I point out that my statement was in reply to your own indication that the current President has a poor record on foreign policy?

    Do you base this evaluation on the Merits of his actions?

    Does using a basis of comparison (Previous Leaders record), take away from, or validate my comment?

    And Lastly...are these not "Feathers in a Cap"?

    BROAD POLICY:
    Re-established the United States standing in the world. ref, ref, ref
    Poll: World’s opinion of U.S. has “improved sharply” under Obama. ref
    47 nations rise to Obama’s challenge at US nuke summit and agree to four years of non-proliferation efforts. ref
    Visited more countries and world leaders than any first year president. ref
    G-20 Summit produced a $1.1 trillion deal to combat the global financial crisis. ref
    Launched an international Add Value to Agriculture initiative (AVTA). ref
    Created a rapid response fund for emerging democracies. ref
    Bolstered the military’s ability to speak different languages. ref
    BY REGION:
    West Hem: Returned the rights of Americans to visit and assist their families in Cuba. ref , ref , ref
    Middle East: Appointed envoys to the Middle East and AFPAK affirming the power of American diplomacy. ref
    Middle East: Renewed loan guarantees for Israel. ref
    Middle East: Pledged $400 million in aid to Gaza civillians. ref
    Middle East: Pressured Israel to end Gaza blockade. ref
    Middle East: Refused to give Israel a “green light” to strike Iran, augmenting Mid-East stability. ref
    Middle East: Iran Sanctions Act. ref
    Asia: Authorized President Bill Clinton’s mission to secure the release of two Americans held in North Korea. ref
    Asia: Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Webb to secure the release of an American held captive. ref
    Asia: Renewed import restrictions under Burmese Freedom and Democracy Act of 2003. ref
    Asia: Nuclear arms agreements with India (5/4/2010). ref
    Africa: Lord’s Resistance Army Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act of 2009. ref
    Africa: Helped stabilize Somalia (Exec Order). ref
    Aus: Nuclear arms agreements with Australia (5/5/2010). ref
    Europe: Nuclear arms agreement with Russia. ref , ref, ref, ref
    Europe: Agreed with Switzerland to bolster tax information exchange


    Oh...and theres that Osama Dead thingy too.


    Obama Administration’s Achievements (Thus Far) » Obama's Achievements Center


    Last edited by tecoyah; 03-27-12 at 12:53 PM.

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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Might I point out that my statement was in reply to your own indication that the current President has a poor record on foreign policy?

    Do you base this evaluation on the Merits of his actions?

    Does using a basis of comparison (Previous Leaders record), take away from, or validate my comment?

    And Lastly...are these not "Feathers in a Cap"?

    BROAD POLICY:
    Re-established the United States standing in the world. ref, ref, ref
    Poll: World’s opinion of U.S. has “improved sharply” under Obama. ref
    47 nations rise to Obama’s challenge at US nuke summit and agree to four years of non-proliferation efforts. ref
    Visited more countries and world leaders than any first year president. ref
    G-20 Summit produced a $1.1 trillion deal to combat the global financial crisis. ref
    Launched an international Add Value to Agriculture initiative (AVTA). ref
    Created a rapid response fund for emerging democracies. ref
    Bolstered the military’s ability to speak different languages. ref
    BY REGION:
    West Hem: Returned the rights of Americans to visit and assist their families in Cuba. ref , ref , ref
    Middle East: Appointed envoys to the Middle East and AFPAK affirming the power of American diplomacy. ref
    Middle East: Renewed loan guarantees for Israel. ref
    Middle East: Pledged $400 million in aid to Gaza civillians. ref
    Middle East: Pressured Israel to end Gaza blockade. ref
    Middle East: Refused to give Israel a “green light” to strike Iran, augmenting Mid-East stability. ref
    Middle East: Iran Sanctions Act. ref
    Asia: Authorized President Bill Clinton’s mission to secure the release of two Americans held in North Korea. ref
    Asia: Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Webb to secure the release of an American held captive. ref
    Asia: Renewed import restrictions under Burmese Freedom and Democracy Act of 2003. ref
    Asia: Nuclear arms agreements with India (5/4/2010). ref
    Africa: Lord’s Resistance Army Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act of 2009. ref
    Africa: Helped stabilize Somalia (Exec Order). ref
    Aus: Nuclear arms agreements with Australia (5/5/2010). ref
    Europe: Nuclear arms agreement with Russia. ref , ref, ref, ref
    Europe: Agreed with Switzerland to bolster tax information exchange


    Oh...and theres that Osama Dead thingy too.


    Obama Administration’s Achievements (Thus Far) » Obama's Achievements Center


    Does nothing to refute what you said and your comparison to Bush. I offered no comparison to anyone else. I could put up a list of innocuous foreign policy "Achievements" from any President's own "Achievement Center". Congratulations for posting a list from a "Pat Obama on the back web site". Obama Achievement Center? Really?

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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    Does nothing to refute what you said and your comparison to Bush. I offered no comparison to anyone else. I could put up a list of innocuous foreign policy "Achievements" from any President's own "Achievement Center". Congratulations for posting a list from a "Pat Obama on the back web site". Obama Achievement Center? Really?
    Yeah, I should have used FOX news for something positive n our President. Reality check....no matter the source, these are things that actually happened and go far in addressing your post about his record. Also, I clearly stated my reasoning in comparison, that you seem unable to grasp said reasoning does not make it invalid.

    If you can look at this information, and tell me it "Does to refute what you said"...then we are at an impasse due to you refusal to accept reality.

    Hell, the simple fact Obama had the balls to kill Osama after Bush said he didn't matter is enough

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    Re: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Yeah, I should have used FOX news for something positive n our President. Reality check....no matter the source, these are things that actually happened and go far in addressing your post about his record. Also, I clearly stated my reasoning in comparison, that you seem unable to grasp said reasoning does not make it invalid.

    If you can look at this information, and tell me it "Does to refute what you said"...then we are at an impasse due to you refusal to accept reality.

    Hell, the simple fact Obama had the balls to kill Osama after Bush said he didn't matter is enough
    I can look at the information/website you posted and say - "They hired a great publicist to put the 'atta boy' list together".

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