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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Why would I need to look at it from that side?
    It doesn't matter which side you are looking from. Which side was the poster speaking from when they posted it? They used a term that is uncommon anywhere except the insurance industry, so it is at least possible the rest of their post was from that perspective as well.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    His post ...
    ... which I interpret to mean get away without "health insurance". That doesn't mean that group never has heath problems, it means if they're healthy (i.e., young people with no major conditions) they don't buy insurance. Whether they end up being "freeloaders" or not is a matter of statistics. Statistically, some of those people will get seriously ill, have accidents, and/or develop a major medical condition like diabetes or high blood pressure and be unable to pay for treatment out-of-pocket.
    anti-selection, or as that poster called it "adverse selection", simply means that people that are sick and need insurance are the ones most likely to purchase insurance. Those that do not have a condition and will not need it, are the least likely to purchase. So, IMO, Harshaw is correct.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I would say that the CBO report is probably the best source for what the CBO report said:



    As far as reducing health care costs for those presently insured -- no one has ever claimed that AHCA would do that. What it will do is lower deficits by reducing the growth in health care spending. It should also make insurance more affordable for lower income working people, the self employed, and anyone with a preexisting condition.
    Perhaps your quote is dated.

    The one term flexible Marxist president Barack Hussein Obama and members of his regime are liars. The CBO takes direction from the Congress. The Democratically controlled Congress were a den of liars. They were politically defeated in 2010. And now I must believe that you fall into the same category. You are clearly an apologist for the president. I do not know why, nor do I care to know. I know with certainty who you are now.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What are these bribes you're talking about? Who supposedly bribed who with what for what?
    Your question implies that you are denying that bribing occurred. Awesome.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    The same arguments have been made before and in those instances the supreme court made their ruling so narrow that out could not be applied to law as a whole. Don't be surprised if the same thing happens here. Why else would the supreme court want to here arguments on the tax aspect of the law when all parties said it want a tax?

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Umm...yes I did. By quoting the post in which I had already answered it. Here, I'll do it again....be sure to read it and you will get your answer.



    There...I even bolded it for you.
    You are unresponsive. I tent to believe you do not understand the question. You only get one second chance. Have a nice day.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    More hyperbole?

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    That's not the question.
    My first inclination is to point out that you are an ignorant fool. But that would be impolite of me.

    So let us agree to disagree.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I think MoSurveyor is correct, part of the answer will have to answer whether people are already part of the system or not. His point is well taken.
    LOL? Why wouldn't one statist agree with another? Perhaps it is time for me to go do something productive. Maybe I will go play World of Warcraft.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Look, I don't think that you can cite one area of the bill and say that that's the only constitutional sticking point can you. You haven't read teh argument against the bill and neither would I be so presumptuous to say such a thing.

    Again, I will cite teh California law requiring drivers to (forcing driversd by government decree: which I think this will all come down to: states rights) buy auto insurance: it's the very same thing.
    Do you disagree that the question I cited is the reason this lawsuit was accepted by the Supremes?

    Why do you believe that a state law requiring that people who drive have insurance is the same as someone who exists having a federal-government directed insurance policy with federally-directed provisions?

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