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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Several States already run high risk pools. And in the State of Texas the insurance companies have to cover the losses the high risk pool incurs.
    Great. So?
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Great. So?
    It is a part of your premium. As well as all the uninsured that walk into the ER.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It is a part of your premium. As well as all the uninsured that walk into the ER.
    Great. So?
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Actually, no.

    The mandate is designed to offset premiums/costs which would otherwise skyrocket when insurance companies are forced to take on all comers without a risk analysis. It has nothing to do with "freeloaders."

    That's why it's in the law. And that's what everyone says the tragedy will be if it's struck.
    Yes, that is part of the purpose (and of course why it is in effect a tax), but the purpose is also to encourage people to buy insurance and thus reduce the number of freeloaders.

    btw, do you have a cite for the above quote?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    And you say a lot of things which have little in common with truth.
    You wouldn't know the truth if it kicked a 2X4 up your ass.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Hmmm. If they can "get away with it," then so much for the idea that they're "freeloaders" who are "already engaged."

    Not that this post doesn't reinforce what I said, anyway.
    Yeah, just like a murderer who gets away with it isn't really a murderer.
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    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The fact remains, the will be treated, a cost will need to be paid, and others will pay it one way or another.
    Then by your logic, those 'others' should just pay more now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, that is part of the purpose (and of course why it is in effect a tax), but the purpose is also to encourage people to buy insurance and thus reduce the number of freeloaders.
    Encourage huh?

    So it's obviously not an income tax, so it's... a direct tax? Is this direct tax tied to population? Or a value of property? No? It's tied to a condition of a behavior/activity?

    That type of tax is prohibited by the Constitution.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yeah, just like a murderer who gets away with it isn't really a murderer.
    Except that "get away with it" means "not get sick and need care," not get away with freeloading. That's the only way it makes sense in his post.
    Last edited by Harshaw; 04-05-12 at 06:53 PM.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You wouldn't know the truth if it kicked a 2X4 up your ass.
    Oh, please. You know how much you weasel and misrepresent things. There's no way you don't. So no, I don't find your word on your own activity terribly credible.
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