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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Really Sherlock?

    I am impressed that you recognize that. So let's get the government completely out of health care. Completely. While we are at it let's get the governm,ent completely out of education as well.
    That requires the federal gov to tell state govs to **** themselves and ignore the 10th
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    You typed more than that, I agree. That it was worthy of a response is where we disagree.
    Meaning you don't want to. I understand.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Really Sherlock?

    I am impressed that you recognize that. So let's get the government completely out of health care. Completely. While we are at it let's get the governm,ent completely out of education as well.
    Which would just put people in worse situation than they are now. On both counts. No thanks.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Which would just put people in worse situation than they are now. On both counts. No thanks.
    Are you serious, you think that government is the supreme landlord of the people? I don't think so. The people did just fine without big daddy government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Are you serious, you think that government is the supreme landlord of the people? I don't think so. The people did just fine without big daddy government.
    And just how in the world did you get that from my post?

    There hasn't been a time in human history where humans did not create some form of government. Even the caveman did it. So no, there has never been a time when we were without "big daddy government". I recognize this fact. But that doesn't mean that I think that the government, any government, is the "supreme landlord of the people". But if you think that having no government involved in healthcare or education is a good thing then you're just fooling yourself.

    If you look through history to a time when the prevailing government of <insert country here> purposely didn't attempt to educate the masses and purposely didn't help with healthcare and all that you will find is disease and ignorance. Yeah you may say that people can do it but the question is will they? And will they do it in such a way as to allow EVERYONE the chance at a good education and have good healthcare? The answer will be no. People that do not have the money to pay for a good education or good healthcare will go without. History supports that assertion. You say that charity will help those that can't do it on their own? Charity alone will not help everyone. If that were the case then no one in this country would go digging through dumpsters and trash cans just to try and find one bite to eat.

    I may not trust the government, but I sure am not going to throw it out with the bath water either. The government does provide needed services and I believe that education and healthcare is a couple of those services.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Perhaps you should look up land use as such. You will clearly find that even most of the USA is 'empty' land.
    I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about people, not land use and rabbit populations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about people, not land use and rabbit populations.
    I originally said: "That being said, you do realize that most of this country is not 'big city' right? "

    I think 'this country' means land. Or are you being obtuse on purpose?
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    I originally said: "That being said, you do realize that most of this country is not 'big city' right? "

    I think 'this country' means land. Or are you being obtuse on purpose?
    I think when the subject is people that "this country" is about where those people live, not the North Slope or the middle of the Mojave.

    Further, the post you originally responded to was:
    "... I've lived in five major metropolitan areas in my life and I've never heard of one. Maybe it's a rural thing?"
    That also seems to imply people and where they live - not land use in general.

    Are you just being obstinate?
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I think when the subject is people that "this country" is about where those people live, not the North Slope or the middle of the Mojave.

    Further, the post you originally responded to was:
    "... I've lived in five major metropolitan areas in my life and I've never heard of one. Maybe it's a rural thing?"
    That also seems to imply people and where they live - not land use in general.

    Are you just being obstinate?
    I see discussion with you is not possible. For even if my response was to 'maybe it's a rural thing', it would suggest that there is a LOT of rural, far more than there is city.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    I see discussion with you is not possible. For even if my response was to 'maybe it's a rural thing', it would suggest that there is a LOT of rural, far more than there is city.
    I say it's a matter of how you look at the situation. When I think "world" in terms of humans and their settlements I pretty much ignore the oceans even though they cover 3/4 of the Earth. No cities, towns, or villages out there - just yachts, some cruise ships, and a few aircraft carriers that really count.


    Our quibble over words is moot anyway. County/city hospitals exist in large metropolitan areas as well as rural areas, which was the whole issue in the post you originally quoted.
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