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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Anytime the courts rule against anything someone is for, they whine "judicial activism." Usually it's the rightwingers. Funny how you don't see them whining about the "judicial activism" now.

    That would be because it isn't.


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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, if you want to go through life only addressing half of what is before you, with opinion, and dismissal then have at it....I think I'll try that with your inane pap from now on....All I have to do is say I don't think so....


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    I don't think I did that. What do you think I didn't address?

    Did you mean life saving cost? We do pass that along. They pay for it straight up. I thought you knew that supports my position.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't think I did that. What do you think I didn't address?

    You can read, I suggest you go back and start with the original hypothetical you dismissed out of hand, and see if you can expand on your answer to actually look like you are saying something other than 'nuh-uh'....


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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You can read, I suggest you go back and start with the original hypothetical you dismissed out of hand, and see if you can expand on your answer to actually look like you are saying something other than 'nuh-uh'....


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    Are you speaking about his hypothetical? I did answer that one. Nothing has been dismissed out of hand. Explain yourself.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    How many times do YOU have to be told that the health care industry is anything but a free market?
    What the hell does that have to do with you determining that people are paid too much? Are you going to define those terms as asked, or skip out like a liberal?
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Anytime the courts rule against anything someone is for, they whine "judicial activism." Usually it's the rightwingers. Funny how you don't see them whining about the "judicial activism" now.
    Perhaps you actually need to learn the definition of "judicial activism" vs "law". Judicial Activism is basing your decision solely on personal opinion or political reasoning, where as judges are supposed to rule on the law.

    In this case, its quite evident, based on the line of questioning of all judges, that the law, which at this level is the Constitution, doesn't support forced commerce. Most of the judges have all made comments that the law's intent is to be helpful, in so many words, and to make a judgment made on the merits of "its helpful" would be Judicial Activism, but its actually implementation is not allowed by the enumerated powers of the Federal Government.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    tossing out the entire law would be judicial activism because there isn't any dispute of the other posts of the law being constitutional.
    If it is determined the whole basis of obamacare is the mandate, that like one of the judges pointed out, without the mandate this is a different law, then NO, it is not activism.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Are you speaking about his hypothetical? I did answer that one. Nothing has been dismissed out of hand. Explain yourself.
    No, you didn't, that is why I asked what I did, now do as I say son, and read, then answer....heh, heh...


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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Perhaps you actually need to learn the definition of "judicial activism" vs "law". Judicial Activism is basing your decision solely on personal opinion or political reasoning, where as judges are supposed to rule on the law.

    In this case, its quite evident, based on the line of questioning of all judges, that the law, which at this level is the Constitution, doesn't support forced commerce. Most of the judges have all made comments that the law's intent is to be helpful, in so many words, and to make a judgment made on the merits of "its helpful" would be Judicial Activism, but its actually implementation is not allowed by the enumerated powers of the Federal Government.
    If they vote the other way, will heads explode?

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, you didn't, that is why I asked what I did, now do as I say son, and read, then answer....heh, heh...


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    I'm sorry j. But there is an answer there. It is clear we need to why before a better answer cna be given. Your answer didn't expalin it.

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