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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    The Supreme court is not going to rule based on the constitution....if that was the case they would have voted 6-0 in favor of Obamacare today. It's always been about political ideology and returning the favor to the party that put you in the seat, its always been like that, and always will be.
    Or maybe the 5 Supremes are pissed at getting dissed at the State of the Union speech a couple of years ago.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here is my prediction: The Supreme Court will uphold parts of Obamacare, while striking down other parts of the law, specifically the requirement that everybody obtain health insurance or face penalties. While it is true that states require you to purchase car insurance, this is done by the states, NOT by the Federal government, and I believe that this is where SCOTUS will draw the line.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    Or maybe the 5 Supremes are pissed at getting dissed at the State of the Union speech a couple of years ago.

    Payback's a bitch.
    This if funny. Thanks.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    So far the arguments "for" and "against" the mandate have been interesting to hear. I can see both sides of the argument and both have legitimate claims. Will be interesting to hear the outcome of this.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    You're a nut.
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    So, honestly, the case is a win-win for Obama.
    Looking mighty left.

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    Would you "give" an 80 year old a 17 year old heart?
    It is not my decision. Do you believe it should be the decision of an unelected and unaccountable governmental board's decision?
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    BS, it is standard practice for liberals to talk about the 'poor' and 'disadvantaged' and how they need those liberals and there government plans in order to save them. Racism, sexism, ageism, whatever is appropriate in terms of the group of people that liberals are suggesting are helpless without the assistance of liberals.
    Again, no one has mentioned race but you. The principle applies regardless of skin color or gender. If you are born to a wealthy family you have a big advantage. That's not making any kind of value judgment -- it's just a fact of life.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    check out Paragraph 18.



    yes. and if you wanted to (for example) get rid of the state boundary restrictions, then Congress could certainly do that - that would be regulating the commerce among the several states. It just doesn't give congress the right to force individuals to engage in commerce for the purpose of regulating that commerce - if so it would have read that they have the power to regulate commerce among the people.
    As the government argued, everyone engages in health care commerce, whether they want to or not. The only question is whether those who can afford to pay for it but won't should be allowed to skim off of everyone else. When they do it drives up the cost of health care for responsible individuals.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    As the government argued, everyone engages in health care commerce, whether they want to or not. The only question is whether those who can afford to pay for it but won't should be allowed to skim off of everyone else. When they do it drives up the cost of health care for responsible individuals.
    Those damn poor people skimming off everyone else! FINALLY, a president that will get the economic burdens of the poor off of corporate and private landowners.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Their definition of "militia" is quite incomplete. The "puh-leeze" is that you think it has some authoritative weight on terms of art used in the Constitution.
    Well, you could look at Black's Law Dictionary:

    "Militia: The body of citizens in a state, enrolled for discipline as a military force, but not engaged in actual service except in emergencies, as distinguished from regular troops or a standing army."

    Nope -- still nothing about about buying their own weapons and gear.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Those damn poor people skimming off everyone else! FINALLY, a president that will get the economic burdens of the poor off of corporate and private landowners.
    There certainly seems to be a trend with regard to 'undisclosed'. Not surprising.
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