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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    So you are disregarding his word as to his own efforts in life? Lovely.
    No, I'm making the point that some people, like TD, were given every advantage in life to help them succeed, whereas many other people didn't have such advantages given to them. I was also fortunate insofar as I was born to well educated, reasonably well-to-do parents who provided me with a good education. But I'm cognizant of and thankful for the advantages that I had and I don't look down on those who were less fortunate -- or imagine myself so far superior to them.

    Undeserved arrogance is an unfortunate side effect of generational affirmative action.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Citizens with their own weapons and gear is the definition of a militia.
    No, it isn't. Militia - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, I'm making the point that some people, like TD, were given every advantage in life to help them succeed, whereas many other people didn't have such advantages given to them. I was also fortunate insofar as I was born to well educated, reasonably well-to-do parents who provided me with a good education. But I'm cognizant of and thankful for the advantages that I had and I don't look down on those who were less fortunate -- or imagine myself so far superior to them.

    Undeserved arrogance is an unfortunate side effect of generational affirmative action.
    this line of argument is irrelevant to the issue.

    what you were born with or earned through life has no bearing on the the issue of whether Obamacare will pass muster before SCOTUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    defend wickard as proper constitutional interpretation
    Sure, I'll get right on that.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Undeserved arrogance is an unfortunate side effect of generational affirmative action.
    That sounds racist...

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    Study the term in the English tradition starting with the Anglo-Saxon fyrds. (Merriam-Webster. Puh-leeze.)
    “Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson.”-- Bernadine Dohrn

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    this line of argument is irrelevant to the issue.

    what you were born with or earned through life has no bearing on the the issue of whether Obamacare will pass muster before SCOTUS.
    I didn't start that line of argument, I just responded to it.

    "your life is not my responsibility and the government shouldn't force me to be charitable to you. That being said I am a strong supporter of private charity and your snide comments are just plain ignorant. my son was born with a birth defect and has had 17 surgeries. I have good insurance because I worked hard and got a good job that has good insurance."

    --TurtleDude
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post


    Study the term in the English tradition starting with the Anglo-Saxon fyrds. (Merriam-Webster. Puh-leeze.)
    Yah, what does Merriam Webster know about definitions?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    SypherAl wrote:
    I know enough to understand that the Supreme Court justices are the real "Kings and Queens" of America who have the final say on ALL matters...America is not as big of a democracy as you think buddy, Everything is decided on personal beliefs and returned favors, the truth is hard to accept at times.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    There is a conspiracy theory section on this board-that sort of stuff might fit in better there.

    Just sayin...........
    Oddly you've said almost exactly the same thing about the Supreme Court's jurisprudence during FDR's presidency.

    Just sayin....
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yah, what does Merriam Webster know about definitions?
    Their definition of "militia" is quite incomplete. The "puh-leeze" is that you think it has some authoritative weight on terms of art used in the Constitution.
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