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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have good insurance because I worked hard and got a good job that has good insurance I was born to rich parents who put me through the finest schools and left me a shedload of money.
    Fixed it for ya'.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    Sigh....you sure seem pretty conservative to be an independent, you are WAY WAY off base...im going to judge you based on your last few posts just like you are judging me. Turd daniel.
    I'm sure you believe anyone that is not left of you is conservative.

    That is flawed logic like everything else I have seen you post.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    The Commerce Clause is an enumerated power listed in the United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3). The clause states that the United States Congress shall have power "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes.
    that is correct. and so, for example, if Pennsylvania attempts to put a tariff on goods from Ohio, the Federal government has the right to step in.

    but where does the government have the right to force you to engage in commerce?

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Fixed it for ya'.
    So you are disregarding his word as to his own efforts in life? Lovely.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Fixed it for ya'.
    not really - he get's insurance through his work. So do I, and my parents are hardly rich. My insurance is pretty good in what it will cover and only poor in that it is incredibly slow and bureaucratic.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Fixed it for ya'.
    Your post oozes envy. and quit lying about stuff you don't know squat about.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    So you are disregarding his word as to his own efforts in life? Lovely.
    many in the extreme left seem to think that anyone who had industrious parents never worked a day in their lives

    in reality, people tend to be like their parents-those who have hard working well educated parents tend to be that way, those whose parents were sloths and lived off the government tit tend to be teat sucklers themselves.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    bluntly, yes. Since "provid[ing] for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States" is an Enumerated Power
    I see enumerated "provide for arming". I don't see any enumeration of "force them to buy their own weapons and gear".

    Just as it is enumerated that Congress has the power to regulate commerce among the several states, but there's no enumeration of any insurance mandate.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I see enumerated "provide for arming". I don't see any enumeration of "force them to buy their own weapons and gear".

    Just as it is enumerated that Congress has the power to regulate commerce among the several states, but there's no enumeration of any insurance mandate.
    defend wickard as proper constitutional interpretation

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I see enumerated "provide for arming". I don't see any enumeration of "force them to buy their own weapons and gear".
    Citizens with their own weapons and gear is the definition of a militia.


    Just as it is enumerated that Congress has the power to regulate commerce among the several states, but there's no enumeration of any insurance mandate.
    No, and it's not "regulation," either.
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