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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    Also, considering you probably dont know the definition of regulate is, I will be kind enough to give you an exact definition.

    reg·u·late/ˈregyəˌlāt/

    Verb:

    Control or maintain the rate or speed of (a machine or process) so that it operates properly.

    any more questions my fellow chess board pawns?

    Control or supervise (something, esp. a company or business activity) by means of rules and regulations.

    Synonyms:
    adjust - control - arrange - settle - order - regularize

    where are individuals mentioned in there.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    I didn't knows judges and legal scholars are genetically engineered to knows the secrets of life. You do understand that these individuals are human beings correct....? And make decisions based on feelings....correct? Only a completely delusional individual could believe that since the supreme court is split on an issue its 100% guaranteed unconstitutional.....you are like a third grader doing a history report.
    He's a "third-grader," but you think legal scholars who disagree with you are just making decisions based on "feelings"?
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I don't see how anyone can read the Commerce Clause and interpret it as "The government can force you to purchase anything it wants you to".
    Ya have to really, really wanna.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    Also, considering you probably dont know the definition of regulate is, I will be kind enough to give you an exact definition.

    reg·u·late/ˈregyəˌlāt/

    Verb:

    Control or maintain the rate or speed of (a machine or process) so that it operates properly.


    Control or supervise (something, esp. a company or business activity) by means of rules and regulations.

    Synonyms:
    adjust - control - arrange - settle - order - regularize



    anymore questions my fellow chess board pawns?

    oh great ,another one of these types of "debaters"....

    forget I exist ,syphilis, and i'll return the favor

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    where are individuals mentioned in there.
    LOL, How did I know you would be the first one to make this argument? If you LIVE in a state and participate in its commerce, you are subject to the law. I love how you tea baggers twist and turn the constitution to your personal preference. I am done here, im going to go debate people that have actual intelligence. BTW, Obamacare will be upheld 5-4, i will remind you in june.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    LOL, How did I know you would be the first one to make this argument? If you LIVE in a state and participate in its commerce, you are subject to the law. I love how you tea baggers twist and turn the constitution to your personal needs.
    Color-coded for self-ownage.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    LOL, How did I know you would be the first one to make this argument? If you LIVE in a state and participate in its commerce, you are subject to the law. I love how you tea baggers twist and turn the constitution to your personal needs.
    tea bagger? LOL, so until the FDR lapdogs twisted the commerce clause, no such authority existed. This clause was to allow congress to prevent one state from interfering with commerce between others. It had nothing to do with regulating say firearms or wheat or medical marijuana or making me buy healthcare.

    remind me of your law degree?

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Color-coded for self-ownage.
    Yeah good point. pwnage

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    No.

    Because they could impose a national health care system that is purely government controlled, thus like social security, is government forced on the people. Whereas what they are doing now is requiring people to buy from private industry.
    Sorry, but I don't see the logic. Government could impose the cost of universal healthcare on everyone via a tax, and then use the proceeds to purchase private insurance for everyone ... but they can't require the 2% of adults who can afford insurance but who won't buy it to pay a relatively small fine?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sorry, but I don't see the logic. Government could impose the cost of universal healthcare on everyone via a tax, and then use the proceeds to purchase private insurance for everyone ... but they can't require the 2% of adults who can afford insurance but who won't buy it to pay a relatively small fine?
    Where's the disconnect?

    I mean, even if your first premise were true and the government had the power to buy private insurance for everyone. Such a power would be entirely unrelated to a power to require people to purchase anything.

    Besides, we can play that game all day. "If the government can do X, then sure it can do Y." You can put anything you want in X and Y.
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