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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    I'm sorry. I was assuming that you were following the oral arguments regarding the mandate requiring everyone to purchase healthcare.
    I was following them. I was assuming that you weren't blindly quoting a snippet of a question from the arguments without having the first idea what it means.
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    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Justice Kennedy's questions today were very encouraging, he has libs crapping in their pants.
    I just checked...my pants are clean.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I was following them. I was assuming that you weren't blindly quoting a snippet of a question from the arguments without having the first idea what it means.
    I edited that post and added more to it. And I assure you that I know what it means and am starting to think that you don't have a better answer to that question than Mr. Verrilli did.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

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    Or maybe it's because the Act is constitutional, and it's a no-brainer that it is
    Then it should be easy to explain exactly how. Do so. See if you can do better than Nancy Pelosi's "are you KIDDING???" explanation.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    So the Commerce Clause authorizes Congress to create commerce so it can regulate commerce?
    I thought that was great. Before the 'create' comment I was a little worried.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, thanks for playin'....Someone call the SCOTUS, boo doesn't see the need, send 'em all home.
    I'll call if you think it will help. :roll; But let's stay with what is actually being said first.

    Public option in this country will NEVER fly, so you can just forget it.
    So, that led us to the mandate. And don't forget to address this part : . . . but I doubt those who went crazy over that option will stand up and take their fair share of blame as to where we ended up.


    5-4 still means that Obamacare goes bye, bye.....And Kennedy was asking more Libertarian style questions today, which are leading the pundits to surmise that he will fall to the right.

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    Yes it does, as does the same count in reverse means it stays. And I do agree that Kennedy and Roberts may hold the key here.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I just checked...my pants are clean.
    You know, so are mine. Odd that.


    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You are talking about single payer which is what medicare is, sadly that was deemed too radical and we have kept the private insurers and their huge CEO salaries. This tax is nothing but an incentive to get people who can afford insurance to buy it instead of sponging off the Govt. and costing the rest of us 25% extra on our premiums. The Govt. does not want anyone to pay it, just get insurance for pete's sake.

    pretty much.

    if the mandate is tossed and the law collapses, however, single payer becomes an option again as soon as enough people are shut out of the system by costs.

    the government may not be able to mandate that people buy private, for-profit insurance. medicare, however, does not fall in that category.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    I edited that post and added more to it. And I assure you that I know what it means and am starting to think that you don't have a better answer to that question than Mr. Verrilli did.
    Again, the bill does not create commerce. The commerce that the law regulates is the health care system which comprises about 18% of GDP. In other words, one out of about every five dollars spent in this country is spent on health care. Kennedy's question was idiotic and Verrilli smacked it down easily.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I just checked...my pants are clean.
    The thing is, you had to check!

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