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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Right, you're an independent.
    Of course you can have your opinion, but based on what I have seen in your posts, it means little.

    If you want to claim I am otherwise, feel free to prove it at any point. I await your summation.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Of course you can have your opinion, but based on what I have seen in your posts, it means little.

    If you want to claim I am otherwise, feel free to prove it at any point. I await your summation.
    I've already given my summation. It's based on the theory of res ipsa loquitor -- the thing speaks for itself.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I've already given my summation. It's based on the theory of res ipsa loquitor -- the thing speaks for itself.
    So you are claiming ignorance.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    So you are claiming ignorance.
    No, I'm claiming that your lean is obvious.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, I'm claiming that your lean is obvious.
    As I said before, prove it. I won't hold my breath.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I've already given my summation. It's based on the theory of res ipsa loquitor -- the thing speaks for itself.
    An Independent often will have conservative views on certain issues and liberal views on other issues. That is often one of the reasons that they consider themselves Independent. So just because you think he is a Republican because of his conservative views on this issue that does not mean that he is a Republican. Perhaps you should educate yourself a bit more about Arbo before claiming that he is something. IE You don't know jack about him so you really should stop making claims about him.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    An Independent often will have conservative views on certain issues and liberal views on other issues. That is often one of the reasons that they consider themselves Independent. So just because you think he is a Republican because of his conservative views on this issue that does not mean that he is a Republican. Perhaps you should educate yourself a bit more about Arbo before claiming that he is something. IE You don't know jack about him so you really should stop making claims about him.
    That sounds like everyone. Even democrats and republicans. We all lean differently on different issues.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That sounds like everyone. Even democrats and republicans. We all lean differently on different issues.
    Like I said, its just one of the reasons. I know that I myself can't stand either the Republican Party or the Democrat Party and would rather be shot than want to be considered as one of them. Which is another reason, at least for me. Others may have their own ideas on why they're Independents.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Like I said, its just one of the reasons. I know that I myself can't stand either the Republican Party or the Democrat Party and would rather be shot than want to be considered as one of them. Which is another reason, at least for me. Others may have their own ideas on why they're Independents.

    It is true I don't put too much stock in the parties. However, even independents tend to vote for one more than the other. And on occasion those who belong to one vote for another (like me voting for Grassly).

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Like I said, its just one of the reasons. I know that I myself can't stand either the Republican Party or the Democrat Party and would rather be shot than want to be considered as one of them. Which is another reason, at least for me. Others may have their own ideas on why they're Independents.
    I am much in the same position as you. Voting comes down to the lesser of two evils (when it comes to president), and who controls, or is more likely to control the legislative branch. One party control, be it (R) or (D), is generally never a good thing. Yeah, people talk about gridlock when power is shared, my view is gridlock is a damn fine thing. See, if they can't 'accomplish' anything, we are usually better off, because most of what they 'accomplish' usually turns out to be a bad idea, bad legislation, bad for the country.

    Next to politicians, party line voters are the worst thing to befall this country. But what politicians want is the party line voter, they want the two sides going at each other with their closed minds, because that keeps the attention off the politicians when they put their hands in the cookie jar.

    And like you stated, views on issues, depend on the issue.

    For this one in particular, the mandate, I have to come down on the side of the commerce clause as it was written and intended, as well as the reality that the country was founded with the idea of a limited federal government. To keep the mandate in place goes against all of that.
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