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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    CNN is freaking out, lol.

    Blitzer is about to piss himself, and Tobin looks like he just had his woobie taken away.

    No mandate......start over. And the public option ain't happening. People already overhwhelmingly hate this plan; they'll riot over a public option idea.
    Except, polling showed that the American public was overwhelmingly in favor of the public option. It was the Republicans and bluedogs who kept it from getting into the bill.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Can anyone "in the know" tell me when the final decision is set to be made?
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    CNN is freaking out, lol.

    Blitzer is about to piss himself, and Tobin looks like he just had his woobie taken away.

    No mandate......start over. And the public option ain't happening. People already overhwhelmingly hate this plan; they'll riot over a public option idea.
    the unsustainability of health care cost inflation caused by three levels of for-profit companies between the patient and the health solution will eventually affect everyone enough that the plans embraced by other first world countries will begin to look a lot better. some have largely grandfathered around the problem. it will reach them, too, given enough time.

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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    "The ninth justice, conservative Clarence Thomas who is expected to vote against the law, asked no questions. He has not asked a question from the bench for more than six years."


    Is anyone surprised? This intellectual lightweight is nothing more than deadspace.
    I'm curious as to whether or not you've actually read an opinion, either concurring or dissenting, written by Justice Thomas. Or any SCOTUS reasonings at all.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    Can anyone "in the know" tell me when the final decision is set to be made?
    It will come out in June I believe.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the unsustainability of health care cost inflation caused by three levels of for-profit companies between the patient and the health solution will eventually affect everyone enough that the plans embraced by other first world countries will begin to look a lot better. some have largely grandfathered around the problem. it will reach them, too, given enough time.
    Indeed.

    Unless runaway healthcare costs can be directly reigned in and managed while simultaneously quality healthcare is directly maintained, there will be no escape from the pending disasters associated with failing to do both directly.

    Obamacare did not directly address obscene skyrocketing health care costs nor did it directly address maintaining quality healthcare, instead providing only an indirect allusion to its hope that the insurance mandate would add another finger or two to what is clearly the soon ultimately futile dike-plugging exercise.

    The problem all along was only about excessive costs and disallowed quality healthcare. That was a private sector matter that could have been solved with a government-authorized highly intelligent and powerful costs-services regulatory body established in the private sector.

    Obamacare cowardlly skirted around the entire foundational issue with a lazy socialist eye to eventually creating government single-payer.

    Obamacare betrayed we the people, and it rightly deserves to be struck down.

    Government needs to go back to the drawing board and courageously do the right thing.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    "The ninth justice, conservative Clarence Thomas who is expected to vote against the law, asked no questions. He has not asked a question from the bench for more than six years."


    Is anyone surprised? This intellectual lightweight is nothing more than deadspace.
    Calling any Supreme Court Justice an "intellectual lightweight" is so painfully stupid....
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    I'm curious as to whether or not you've actually read an opinion, either concurring or dissenting, written by Justice Thomas. Or any SCOTUS reasonings at all.
    Yes....thousands. I graduated from Law School and have been practicing law for many years....and I stand by my statement. Thomas is deadspace on the court. Every other justice participates while he sits back and does nothing. The guy is a disgrace to the court.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Calling any Supreme Court Justice an "intellectual lightweight" is so painfully stupid....
    Sorry Redress, but his actions and his writings provide plenty of proof to the point.
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    Re: Supreme Court health care arguments under way

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Indeed.

    Unless runaway healthcare costs can be directly reigned in and managed while simultaneously quality healthcare is directly maintained, there will be no escape from the pending disasters associated with failing to do both directly.

    Opening up Insurance to be sold across state lines could be a possibility. Oh, and along with educating people that using health insurance for a doctors visit to treat the sniffles is a huge driver of costs is another.

    Obamacare did not directly address obscene skyrocketing health care costs
    Sure it did, it addressed it in a fashion as to bring the current system, and provider network down, so that it could be re-fashioned in a single payer system later.

    nor did it directly address maintaining quality healthcare
    Quality, innovation, affordability? All of these to quote an Obama term would "necessarily" disappear.

    instead providing only an indirect allusion to its hope that the insurance mandate would add another finger or two to what is clearly the soon ultimately futile dike-plugging exercise.
    Again, all to plan...Can't have those pesky private companies out there when the goal is to make everyone a subject of the gubment.

    The problem all along was only about excessive costs and disallowed quality healthcare. That was a private sector matter that could have been solved with a government-authorized highly intelligent and powerful costs-services regulatory body established in the private sector.
    Not going to happen with a quasi Socialist wannabe in office.

    Obamacare cowardlly skirted around the entire foundational issue with a lazy socialist eye to eventually creating government single-payer.
    Exactly.

    Obamacare betrayed we the people, and it rightly deserves to be struck down.
    And most likely will be. Today was a disaster for the government attorney. And the wonderful thing about it is that I heard that there is no sever-ability clause in the law, One piece (the mandate) goes, all of it goes.

    Government needs to go back to the drawing board and courageously do the right thing.
    See, this is where I part. I don't think the government is equipped to handle this. We need less government not more.

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