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Iraqi Woman Beaten to Death in California

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Iraqi Woman Beaten to Death in California, Hate Crime Suspected - Yahoo! News

A woman from Iraq who was found beaten, lying in a pool of bloodin her in El Cajon, Calif., home next to a note saying "go back to your country," has died and police are investigating her death as a possible a hate crime.
Shaima Alawadi's 17-year-old daughter found her unconscious on the dining room floor of her home Wednesday. She was taken to the hospital and put on life support, but she was taken off life around 3 p.m. Saturday.
"Our understanding is that she was beaten and she was hit with some kind of a tool about 8 times in the head. She was knocked on the floor and was found in a pool of blood," said Hanif Mohebi, the director of the San Diego chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.
Alawadi was a 32-year-old mother of five children, ranging in age from eight to 17.


"A week ago they left a letter saying this is our country not yours you terrorist, and so my mom ignored that thinking it was just kids playing a prank," Alawadi's daughter, Fatima Al Himidi, told ABC News affiliate KGTV. "But the day they hit her, they left another note again, and it said the same thing."


Tray, and now this lady. When is the hate going to stop? Ever? What the heck is going on in our country???


 
Um..hello? "Possible hate crime"?
DUH!!:doh
 
You better be careful Enola. If they find she got suspended and listened to rap music, they'll probably blame the victim.
 
If she was indeed beaten for her nationality/race/faith than the criminals who did this to her need to be prosecuted for murder out of hatred/hatre crime.
 
She wore a hoodie... hence she had it coming right?
 
I do still find it shocking to read about such ignorance and brutality happening in the USofA.

Unfortunately, I fear this shock is wearing off much quicker these days, and is becoming less and less of a surprise.
 
You better be careful Enola. If they find she got suspended and listened to rap music, they'll probably blame the victim.

They should check to see if she ever called the police on anyone. If so, she instigated this all so beating her to death was justified just as Martin had a right to do.
 
Many on this forum are vigilantes who see no need for police or courts. They believe the media should decide and then they will deal out the justice.

The police should investigate if this was an "honor killing" disguised after-the-fact as a hate crime via 2 notes.
 
Many on this forum are vigilantes who see no need for police or courts. They believe the media should decide and then they will deal out the justice.

The police should investigate if this was an "honor killing" disguised after-the-fact as a hate crime via 2 notes.

This. When I first saw the thread my first thought was, "Was this actually an 'honor killing'?" When a radical element states that it will keep to Sharia law despite local law, and within that concept they have no issue with lying to "infidels", then why wouldn't they cover it up just to avoid the hassle? I'm not going to dismiss it as a hate crime, but I'm wouldn't be looking only in that direction.
 
How is this connected to the other story?

It isn't. Rather, it is some white folk trying to pretend like they are civil rights activists from the safety and do-nothingness of being behind their computer screen under an anonymous ID. There they have courage and may actually believe they are doing something.
 
This. When I first saw the thread my first thought was, "Was this actually an 'honor killing'?" When a radical element states that it will keep to Sharia law despite local law, and within that concept they have no issue with lying to "infidels", then why wouldn't they cover it up just to avoid the hassle? I'm not going to dismiss it as a hate crime, but I'm wouldn't be looking only in that direction.

There are no clauses in Shariah that allow honor killing. Am also willing to bet that the percentage of husbands killing their wives in ''crimes of passion''' amongst people of other ethnicity/religion is higher than that of Muslims the only reason you know about 'honor killing' is probably because its so rare its newsworthy..

Shariah (which actually translates into Islamic law so saying Shariah law is like saying Islamic law law) punishment for adultery matches that of the bible, stoning to death. Am not sure what criteria the Bible has for carrying out the punishment but in Shariah, its almost impossible to do it.

For it be carried out, 4 Muslim adult men known amongst their community for being pious must witness the actual act of intercourse, seeing two people in bed is not enough, you also can't peek through windows or spy on people (the sanctity of ones home and privacy is big deal in Islam), even if you're in an orgy none of the witness accounts count because your admitting to not being pious.

The only way I can see the death penalty being carried out is if those two or more people started having sex in a public place.

There is another way though and that is when a husband or wife accuse each other of adultry, the Quran says:

As for those who accuse their wives but have no witnesses except themselves, they (must) bear witness four times (with an oath) by God that they are surely telling the truth and the fifth (oath) that they solemnly invoke the curse of God on themselves if they tell a lie. But the punishment will be averted from her if she bears witness four times (with an oath) by God that (her husband) is surely telling a lie. And the fifth (oath) that she solemnly invokes the wrath of God on herself if he is telling the truth (24:6-9).

So no, Islam punishes adultery equally and doesn't specifically target women, more over it almost impossible to convict someone of adultery and carry out the sentence under those laws.
 
There are no clauses in Shariah that allow honor killing. Am also willing to bet that the percentage of husbands killing their wives in ''crimes of passion''' amongst people of other ethnicity/religion is higher than that of Muslims the only reason you know about 'honor killing' is probably because its so rare its newsworthy..<snip>

All of which means nothing when dealing with the radical element. We've had the stories a few years ago of the honor killings out of Europe. I've no doubt that they were of a radical element of Islam. And they are no different than the radical element of Christianity who bomb abortion clinics or the Branch Davidians (sp?) or other cults.

Simply put when you have a history of a radical element doing these kind of things, then you need to question was it the radical element as well as was it a hate crime.
 
I do still find it shocking to read about such ignorance and brutality happening in the USofA.

Unfortunately, I fear this shock is wearing off much quicker these days, and is becoming less and less of a surprise.

I'm not. This is a product of our "Think less, act more" general attitude here. We're quick to get ants in our pants over any issue without actually thinking it through or coming up with an original thought. And when you endorse that sort of reaction in a large populace, it's going to have negative effects.
 
All of which means nothing when dealing with the radical element. We've had the stories a few years ago of the honor killings out of Europe. I've no doubt that they were of a radical element of Islam. And they are no different than the radical element of Christianity who bomb abortion clinics or the Branch Davidians (sp?) or other cults.
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I know that anyone can take anything and interpret it to mean anything. But there is no evidence whatsoever that Islam condones them, quite the opposite. If these murderers wanted to apply Sharia they'd probably get executed. As I said before the rulings are not contested by anyone and the Quran which is considered the highest Islamic authority period doesn't allow a man to kill his wife even if he walks in on her with another man.

Let alone kill his wife for for mere suspicion.These murders exist in all cultures regardless of religion, even in the ME Christians commit them as well. So its unfair to say they're influenced by Sharia (as horrible as it is).
 
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