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    Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies

    Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies - CNN.com

    A hate crime of a different kind, but will there be the same type of outrage as in the Martin case?

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    Re: Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies

    Quote Originally Posted by patrickbwayne View Post
    Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies - CNN.com

    A hate crime of a different kind, but will there be the same type of outrage as in the Martin case?
    What a horrible thing to happen to this young mom. Yes, a hate crime pure and simple.

    Martin? Absolutely no parallel, in my opinion. Every time a black gets killed by someone other than another black? That isn't a hate crime. The postulation that he may have called Martin a racial slur? Racial slurs don't prove hate crimes. There is nothing, in my opinion, that makes Martin's homocide rise to the level of hate crime.
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    Re: Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies

    Quote Originally Posted by patrickbwayne View Post
    Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies - CNN.com
    A hate crime of a different kind, but will there be the same type of outrage as in the Martin case?
    Is her killer going to be prosecuted?
    If they know who the killer is and they don't prosecute that person, it could end up in a similar straits.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies

    It doesn't make the crimes any more or less worse if they were hate crimes.

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    Re: Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies

    Quote Originally Posted by patrickbwayne View Post
    Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies - CNN.com

    A hate crime of a different kind, but will there be the same type of outrage as in the Martin case?
    Horrible, just horrible....What the hell...Seems our society is dividing further...


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    Re: Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies

    The point I'm trying to get to is this. Will the president come out and publicly say it is "tragic", will the GOP candidates? Will the Sacamento and LA basketball teams wear traditional muslim attire to show their support for this family? Will there be a call for a special prosecutor to examine the case? NO. because there isn't any political capital in doing so.

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    Re: Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies

    Perhaps the difference is black folk have had a few centuries of hate ladled upon them in this country and have organized while Iraqis are rather new on the gotta hate list, they will learn. I do hope it wasn't a random hate crime, Muslim women get beaten and killed enough in their homelands to be subjected to the same treatment here.

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    Re: Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies

    Quote Originally Posted by patrickbwayne View Post
    The point I'm trying to get to is this. Will the president come out and publicly say it is "tragic", will the GOP candidates? Will the Sacamento and LA basketball teams wear traditional muslim attire to show their support for this family? Will there be a call for a special prosecutor to examine the case? NO. because there isn't any political capital in doing so.
    Zimmerman/Martin is a very special situation and worthy of the attention it's getting.

    Walking While Black is not a crime. Shouldn't be perceived as a crime. And vigilantes should not be allowed to treat it as such.
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    Re: Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies

    Quote Originally Posted by patrickbwayne View Post
    The point I'm trying to get to is this. Will the president come out and publicly say it is "tragic", will the GOP candidates? Will the Sacamento and LA basketball teams wear traditional muslim attire to show their support for this family? Will there be a call for a special prosecutor to examine the case? NO. because there isn't any political capital in doing so.
    And there isn't any political capital in doing so because there's no major issue in it as in the TM case where there's a known killer who doesn't have to face trial.

    So, yes, you are right.
    These markedly different killings are being perceived and reacted to in markedly different ways.

    Not really sure what the debate is though.
    Last edited by Simon W. Moon; 03-25-12 at 12:59 PM.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies

    Quote Originally Posted by patrickbwayne View Post
    The point I'm trying to get to is this. Will the president come out and publicly say it is "tragic", will the GOP candidates? Will the Sacamento and LA basketball teams wear traditional muslim attire to show their support for this family? Will there be a call for a special prosecutor to examine the case? NO. because there isn't any political capital in doing so.
    There is another aspect to this scenario, "Stand Your Ground" is a relatively new law(2005) which is on trial itself as the Zimmerman/Martin situation unfolds. There are many political interests here. Hate crime laws had there media driven heyday and not it is a matter of enforcement. Should it not be enforced then I beleive we we will the same antics.

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