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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    If Zimmerman was the person that started the fight, does it look like he was subdued, not to me it doesnt. To bad Trayvon did not have a gun to be able to defend himself properly, and truely ensure that Zimmerman was subdued and no longer presented a threat to him
    Lol...what ifs' all day. **** that noise. Just stick with the evidence

    Let me first say I am not a heartless uncaring SOB but that teenager. He made a choice to engage in aggravated assault on Zimmerman. He ****ing got what was coming to him. Here's a clue, if you dont engage in illegal behavior that may result in a grievous injuries to someone, you dont get shot.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    ...He made a choice to engage in aggravated assault on Zimmerman. He ****ing got what was coming to him.....
    prove it.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Lol...what ifs' all day. **** that noise. Just stick with the evidence

    Let me first say I am not a heartless uncaring SOB but that teenager. He made a choice to engage in aggravated assault on Zimmerman. He ****ing got what was coming to him. Here's a clue, if you dont engage in illegal behavior that may result in a grievous injuries to someone, you dont get shot.
    Wow I should tell that to my cousin

    If she wasnt engaged in illegal behavior standing next to the ex of a murdersous thug she would never have been shot

    But I like your way of thinking

    I am going to rob banks and shoot everyone, it is their fault for engaging in illegal activity
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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Lol...what ifs' all day. **** that noise. Just stick with the evidence

    Let me first say I am not a heartless uncaring SOB but that teenager. He made a choice to engage in aggravated assault on Zimmerman. He ****ing got what was coming to him. Here's a clue, if you dont engage in illegal behavior that may result in a grievous injuries to someone, you dont get shot.
    Okay, and if you don't play a masked man with an attitude you don't become the most hated person in the world. And I AM the most uncaring heartless SOB you ever met. And I am not a teenager. I am an old man just trying my best to piss you off. How am I doing?

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    But I like your way of thinking
    Thanks, dude

    Just look up the laws of the state you are in concerning use of deadly force as it pertains to citizens. Know when you can respond and with what level of force. Talk to your lawyer*if you don't, get one* in your state if you aren't sure.

    Generally, you cannot use deadly force to end crimes against property. However, if you challenge them and they respond by throwing a shot at you, its a totally different game.

    Remember...A human being was killed by another, that's homicide. A murder is a homicide but a homicide is not necessarily murder. But sometimes people think there is no difference.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Hmmm oll Bushie the original gov who signed it into law says this shouldnt apply... Interesting turn of events in my opinon.
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    He's a bit behind the curve, since Zimmerman's lawyer has already stated SYG would not be Zimmerman's defense strategy, and he himself doesn't think it applies. His defense strategy would simply be, wait for it, self-defense.
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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Ahhh Mongur, ya aint all that uncaring, you asked how am I doing, so ya care some.

    Trayvon couldn't have fought it out with Zimmerman like the OK corral, 17 year olds can't conceal carry in Fl.

    It will be interesting to see how the officers who set the neighborhood watch up explain what they told the watchers they could and can't do. A citizen confronting another citizen who isn't engaged in any other activity other than walking while black and in a hoodie isn't covered by the stand your ground law. The neighborhood watch isn't for frustrated civilians to pretend they are cops. Unless Trayvon was beating a little old lady Zimmerman had no right to use deadly force.

    It will be interesting to see how the facts unfold, right now there are too many conflicting stories and a rather bad smell coming off the Sanford PD.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Lol...what ifs' all day. **** that noise. Just stick with the evidence

    Let me first say I am not a heartless uncaring SOB but that teenager. He made a choice to engage in aggravated assault on Zimmerman. He ****ing got what was coming to him. Here's a clue, if you dont engage in illegal behavior that may result in a grievous injuries to someone, you dont get shot.
    A grown man (28 years old) vs. a seventeen your old kid.

    I was assaulted last night by a guest of my hotel at which I'm security, he charged me, and I would have never felt the need to shoot him dead and we were equal in size.

    Even if I admit that Zimmerman was assaulted by Trayvon physically, shooting him was uncalled for if he did not present a lethal weapon in return.

    Simple as that.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    A grown man (28 years old) vs. a seventeen your old kid.

    I was assaulted last night by a guest of my hotel at which I'm security, he charged me, and I would have never felt the need to shoot him dead and we were equal in size.

    Even if I admit that Zimmerman was assaulted by Trayvon physically, shooting him was uncalled for if he did not present a lethal weapon in return.

    Simple as that.
    What should have been done or wonder why things happened the way that they did. Who knows?


    Suffice it to say, I have been in what could/should have been a lethal force drama, and due to some specifics in the incident, I did not pull the trigger. It would have been right if I had shot as well, but something told me NO....in that millisecond time frame. Do not to shoot

    Its a gut feeling.... something that clicks in your brain at the right moment

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    the problem here is that the 17 year old did not have a gun


    If he did he could have shot Zimmerman, when Zimmerman first accosted him, then he could have claimed self defense from a violent and armed pyscho
    No. That would have made Trayvon guilty of murdering a NW volunteer.



    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so because he wore his hood, he deserved to get blown away?
    Hyperbole.
    He was not shot because he was wearing a hood.



    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I would ask the same of you
    produce evidence that Trayvon initiated first contact and assaulted Zimmerman first
    The girlfriends's statement.- Trayvon confronted Zimmerman first with a question.
    Zimmerman's statement - that he was attacked from behind.



    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    A grown man (28 years old) vs. a seventeen your old kid.
    A kid?
    Trayvon is 17. That is a young adult.
    Trayvon was at least 6 feet tall, 160lbs and athletic.

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