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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    According to the only eye-witness account, Zimmerman was on the ground, being beaten by Trayvon, yelling "Help" (on the audio), when he pulled the gun and fired one shot.

    So losing a fight you started is justification to shoo them
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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    What would you do if I asked you what you were doing in my neighborghood,

    You would and I would as well tell me to f off and walk away. Given my cop wannabe personality I would grab you to stop you from leaving. That is assualt, Trayvon would be justified in beating Zimmermans butt. Of course Zimmerman had a gun and shot Trayvon, preventing Trayvon from being able to say that Zimmerman assaulted him, so now a pycho gets to tell his`` story``.

    Facts truely are a stubborn thing
    You are making **** up again. If you have evidence that Zimmerman physically assaulted Travon first, please link it. The current evidence says otherwise.

    Zimmerman might be a friggin idiot. But right now all evidence supports that thug wannabee Trayvon physically assaulted cop wannabe Zimmerman. And that Zimmerman acted in legal self defense.

    You've posted your unsupported fairy tale twice, btw. Please not again. How about some evidence this time.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    You are making **** up again. If you have evidence that Zimmerman physically assaulted Travon first, please link it. The current evidence says otherwise.

    Zimmerman might be a friggin idiot. But right now all evidence supports that thug wannabee Trayvon physically assaulted cop wannabe Zimmerman. And that Zimmerman acted in legal self defense.

    You've posted your unsupported fairy tale twice, btw. Please not again. How about some evidence this time.
    What evidence supports the case that Trayvon assaulted Zimmerman

    that Zimmerman was on the losing end of a physical fight.
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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    You are making **** up again. If you have evidence that Zimmerman physically assaulted Travon first, please link it. The current evidence says otherwise.....


    what makes you sooo sure, we are aware of the all the evidence?

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    What evidence supports the case that Trayvon assaulted Zimmerman

    that Zimmerman was on the losing end of a physical fight.
    Here you go:

    Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman

    My point to you would be is where is your evidence that supports what I see as pure conjecture from you ?

    The only side that I have taken here is presenting the evidence available to us. Current photos. Current evidence as reported by the press. The problem is that the majority of the media has ignored evidence contrary to Trayvon.

    Zimmerman may be one giant idiot who was more provocative than is wise. But stupidity is not a crime. Assault is. And is always the case, single mistakes are usually minor. When we link them together, as with Zimmerman getting out of his car for whatever reason, and Trayvon clearly helping to elevate the issue, we have a tragedy.

    Present evidence that Zimmerman assaulted Trayvon, who then was only defending himself, and you got something.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and if one doesn't want to be treated like a vigilante cop wannabee-then don't disregard what the 9-1-1 dispatcher tells one to do

    This guy Zimmerman oozes wannabee cop splooge. And that is bothersome to me
    wanna-be cops, with guns, who attack cops, attack women, don't get to become a cop, call 911 obsessively, and follow "perps" and talk to themselves about how "these assholes always get away", and "****ing punks", really trouble me too.

    its kinda scary.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    its interesting how a Fox affiliate, would LIE about their own damn report.

    no where in the report, does it say that the witness saw Martin attack Zimmerman.

    it only says that he saw Martin on top of Zimmerman, who started the altercation is NOT mentioned.

    but hey, its Fox.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    what makes you sooo sure, we are aware of the all the evidence?
    I have never said, or even implied, such. I present it only as what we got so far, and welcome more evidence.

    I do ask folks to see if this current info, which others have brought out in other threads as well, is what is also presented by the media as "current".

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Zimmerman says the shooting was self defense. According to information released on the Sanford city website, Zimmerman said he was going back to his SUV when he was attacked by the teen.

    Sanford police say Zimmerman was bloody in his face and head, and the back of his shirt was wet and had grass stains, indicating a struggle took place before the shooting
    How does that changed what I said?

    I agree that a struggle took place, it is my opinion that Zimmerman initiated that struggle, not Trayvon. And in my world losing a fight that you start is not justification for shooting someone. If it is, nerd of the world rejoice, start all the fights you want, and shoot the person when you start losing the fight


    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Here you go:

    Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman

    My point to you would be is where is your evidence that supports what I see as pure conjecture from you ?

    The only side that I have taken here is presenting the evidence available to us. Current photos. Current evidence as reported by the press. The problem is that the majority of the media has ignored evidence contrary to Trayvon.

    Zimmerman may be one giant idiot who was more provocative than is wise. But stupidity is not a crime. Assault is. And is always the case, single mistakes are usually minor. When we link them together, as with Zimmerman getting out of his car for whatever reason, and Trayvon clearly helping to elevate the issue, we have a tragedy.

    Present evidence that Zimmerman assaulted Trayvon, who then was only defending himself, and you got something.
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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    its interesting how a Fox affiliate, would LIE about their own damn report.

    no where in the report, does it say that the witness saw Martin attack Zimmerman.

    it only says that he saw Martin on top of Zimmerman, who started the altercation is NOT mentioned.

    but hey, its Fox.
    LOL ....... so it does not count because its "Fox".

    Its the evidence we got. OBTW, if you are on the ground, being beaten, you can defend yourself .............. and its legal. Provide evidence that Zimmerman first assaulted Trayvon, and maybe you make a case for manslaughter. But you don't have such evidence. WTF is the problem with honoring the evidence we have until we get more ? If it even exists ? Whaqt you and others have argued is to ignore the current evidence.

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