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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    The one question that will be asked in a court is why Zimmercan got out of his SUV in the first place.


    Unless Martin starting running into back yards I would think you could easily drive slowly behind back a few houses and keep eye on him if he remained on street and sidewalk. If we were to go by what people described as Martin being an atheletic football player and Zimmerman a pudgy overweight older man then I would think he would have a better option of keeping up with him in his vehicle.

    In retrospect am certain Zimmerman is wishing he was never so foolish to feel a need to get out of his SUV especially since the police were already enroute.
    good point,bullets travel through suv doors,so if he had stayed in his suv he could have avoided contact,but in the unlikely case contact happened,his gun would still have worked even insede the car,
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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Why are the libs all pointing at the Stand Your Ground Law, which has nothing to do with this case? Is not being claimed by attorneys for the defense, or the cops ? Zimmerman's lawyer claims self defense. We have an eye-witness, the only one so far, claiming it was self defense. Whether it was, or was not, all this BS from the libs about SYG is just that, BS.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Why are the libs all pointing at the Stand Your Ground Law, which has nothing to do with this case? Is not being claimed by attorneys for the defense, or the cops ? Zimmerman's lawyer claims self defense. We have an eye-witness, the only one so far, claiming it was self defense. Whether it was, or was not, all this BS from the libs about SYG is just that, BS.
    Yeah, all about libs. Yes, the people who think that there is race bias on the part of the Sanford police department are generally more liberal than your average flamingo toting retards, but the deal is that the 'stand your ground' libs (and that is an absurd statement in itself) are concerned that the police originally swept this under the rug. Those Muslim socialists may be too concerned that there is a problem with letting a shooter go without a proper investigation. And that goes for thinking conservatives, as well. They all want an investigation. You have a problem with getting to the bottom of this horrible tragedy? Or is it just a left-wing media conspiracy to besmirch an upholder of neighborhood honor. Sounds like revenge mentality to me.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by mogur15 View Post
    Yeah, all about libs. Yes, the people who think that there is race bias on the part of the Sanford police department are generally more liberal than your average flamingo toting retards, but the deal is that the 'stand your ground' libs (and that is an absurd statement in itself) are concerned that the police originally swept this under the rug. Those Muslim socialists may be too concerned that there is a problem with letting a shooter go without a proper investigation. And that goes for thinking conservatives, as well. They all want an investigation. You have a problem with getting to the bottom of this horrible tragedy? Or is it just a left-wing media conspiracy to besmirch an upholder of neighborhood honor. Sounds like revenge mentality to me.

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    Hey. Show me where I excused the Sanford police ? All that I pointed out is that it is only the libs that are kicking around "Stand Your Ground", as it has no merit in this case. If you can debate that, then have it.

    I already know that you can't, btw

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Hey. Show me where I excused the Sanford police ? All that I pointed out is that it is only the libs that are kicking around "Stand Your Ground", as it has no merit in this case. If you can debate that, then have it.

    I already know that you can't, btw
    Well, Sanford police chief Bill Lee cited the new (2005) 'stand your ground' statutes as justification to release Zimmerman on the spot. Does that qualify for your merit? And does that qualify for a debate? I had it, it's your turn, but I have to go to a costume party now, so I will respond after my hangover has subsided. (And I am not driving, so don't even go there.)

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    the problem here is that the 17 year old did not have a gun


    If he did he could have shot Zimmerman, when Zimmerman first accosted him, then he could have claimed self defense from a violent and armed pyscho
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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by mogur15 View Post
    Well, Sanford police chief Bill Lee cited the new (2005) 'stand your ground' statutes as justification to release Zimmerman on the spot. Does that qualify for your merit? And does that qualify for a debate? I had it, it's your turn, but I have to go to a costume party now, so I will respond after my hangover has subsided. (And I am not driving, so don't even go there.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    the problem here is that the 17 year old did not have a gun


    If he did he could have shot Zimmerman, when Zimmerman first accosted him, then he could have claimed self defense from a violent and armed pyscho
    We have no evidence that Zimmerman violated the rights of Trayvon. We have his own report to police that he was assaulted by Trayvon. We have eyewitness corroboration that Trayvon assulted Zimmerman. There was tangible evidence at the scene. All evidence points to Zimmerman being assaulted by the 5" taller Trayvon. The police had this evidence from the very beginning.

    None of the above says the police did a proper job. Nor does it say they did not. What at least a few of us see is that the mainstream media narrative does not jibe with the reported evidence. The evidence could be "wrong", but its what we got. I am not advocating that Zimmerman not be charged so as to entail a more thorough investigation and argument. However, he needs to be charged in accordance with the evidence, and the law. And no one here has shown to where that has not happened.

    And libs. If you are on neighborhood watch, call in what you believe is a suspicious person, and then ask that person to remain until the police arrive, I will defend you when, if that suspect assaults you, knocks you to the ground, and is hitting you, you pull out a weapon and end his life. Right now, we have evidence that points to the above more than any other theory advanced. This is not saying Zimmerman is innocent, but he gets the same protection as you.

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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    We have no evidence that Zimmerman violated the rights of Trayvon. We have his own report to police that he was assaulted by Trayvon. We have eyewitness corroboration that Trayvon assulted Zimmerman. There was tangible evidence at the scene. All evidence points to Zimmerman being assaulted by the 5" taller Trayvon. The police had this evidence from the very beginning.

    None of the above says the police did a proper job. Nor does it say they did not. What at least a few of us see is that the mainstream media narrative does not jibe with the reported evidence. The evidence could be "wrong", but its what we got. I am not advocating that Zimmerman not be charged so as to entail a more thorough investigation and argument. However, he needs to be charged in accordance with the evidence, and the law. And no one here has shown to where that has not happened.

    And libs. If you are on neighborhood watch, call in what you believe is a suspicious person, and then ask that person to remain until the police arrive, I will defend you when, if that suspect assaults you, knocks you to the ground, and is hitting you, you pull out a weapon and end his life. Right now, we have evidence that points to the above more than any other theory advanced. This is not saying Zimmerman is innocent, but he gets the same protection as you.
    Right

    So some pyscho gets out of his car after following someone, and then the person walking starts the fight with the pyscho. Sounds logical

    If the Trayvon had a gun, and shot Zimmerman the second Zimmerman accosted him, Trayvon would be alive and a pyscho would be dead.

    Remember Zimmerman got out of his car, and went up to Trayvon, I strongly doubt Trayvon walked up to Zimmerman. I expect Zimmerman was the one to start the encounter, just because he may got his but kicked in a fight he started, does not mean it was self defense. Which is why I am sayint Trayvon should have had a gun, and shot Zimmerman first accosted him (armed and dangerous), Trayvon would have had a better claim of self defense the Zimmerman and would be alive today. I expect however he would be in jail and would have been charged
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    Re: Jeb Bush: 'Stand Your Ground' Doesn't Apply in Trayvon Case

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Right

    So some pyscho gets out of his car after following someone, and then the person walking starts the fight with the pyscho. Sounds logical

    If the Trayvon had a gun, and shot Zimmerman the second Zimmerman accosted him, Trayvon would be alive and a pyscho would be dead.

    Remember Zimmerman got out of his car, and went up to Trayvon, I strongly doubt Trayvon walked up to Zimmerman. I expect Zimmerman was the one to start the encounter, just because he may got his but kicked in a fight he started, does not mean it was self defense. Which is why I am sayint Trayvon should have had a gun, and shot Zimmerman first accosted him (armed and dangerous), Trayvon would have had a better claim of self defense the Zimmerman and would be alive today. I expect however he would be in jail and would have been charged
    LOL ..... post evidence that Zimmerman assaulted Trayvon ? It may not have been the best idea for Zimmerman to get out of his car and say anything, but it is not against any law. Assault is ... btw Ever been on neighborhood watch ? Reporting folks is what you're supposed to do, and it does not make one a psycho.

    Here's the recent Trayvon. Seen this photo in the media ? LOL ... "No" ... you see the 13 year old Trayvon. Why not use a current photo?

    1332569412.jpg
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