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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Viagra is not covered by medicaid.
    I've seen it done. Legally they aren't supposed to pay for it, but they can work around that by having the prescriber say it is to treat hypertension or something non-sexually related. It's technically insurance fraud at the prescribers side of things, but it does happen.

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    I work in a pharmacy. I've seen medicaid pay for every last cent of someones widely abused narcotics. Sometimes the patients freak out when Medicaid asks them to pay $3 on their name brand drugs exceeding $500+

    Mainly, it's narcotic abuse by low life patients on Medicaid. My sales tax when to pay for some junkies Xanax and oxycodone. If Medicaid stopped paying for these things there would be a civil war. Although I'm going off on a tangent now
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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And this attitude is exactly what scares me about socialized health care.
    So lets see... heart to a 70+ year old with many decades of health problems, who has lived his life... or the heart to a 30 year old with many decades of productive life ahead of him... hmmm yea that is one hell of a scary call you got to make there... better choose the guy with the most MONEY!
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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I've seen it done. Legally they aren't supposed to pay for it, but they can work around that by having the prescriber say it is to treat hypertension or something non-sexually related. It's technically insurance fraud at the prescribers side of things, but it does happen.
    https://www.cms.gov/FraudAbuseforCon...cted_Fraud.asp

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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So lets see... heart to a 70+ year old with many decades of health problems, who has lived his life... or the heart to a 30 year old with many decades of productive life ahead of him... hmmm yea that is one hell of a scary call you got to make there... better choose the guy with the most MONEY!

    His problem was the heart not the other organs. Trust me people are fully vetted in the US heart transplant system. I know since I have taken part in it.

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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    We do report fraud, but I'm saying it still happens. Many people have high blood pressure. The physician can prove they have high blood pressure and say Viagra was a treatment (even though it was for ED). I've even seen prescribers write for a higher dose of drugs (viagra and other meds) and told the patient to break them in half so that they can get more pills for their money. This is also fraud and we call out on it all the time. Although, when it comes to Medicaid my main problem is the coverage of narcotics and their abuse.
    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So lets see... heart to a 70+ year old with many decades of health problems, who has lived his life... or the heart to a 30 year old with many decades of productive life ahead of him... hmmm yea that is one hell of a scary call you got to make there... better choose the guy with the most MONEY!
    Thank God we aren't in Europe where they would have given him a pain pill and said he should die

    /I'm joking.
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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    We do report fraud, but I'm saying it still happens. Many people have high blood pressure. The physician can prove they have high blood pressure and say Viagra was a treatment (even though it was for ED). I've even seen prescribers write for a higher dose of drugs (viagra and other meds) and told the patient to break them in half so that they can get more pills for their money. This is also fraud and we call out on it all the time. Although, when it comes to Medicaid my main problem is the coverage of narcotics and their abuse.
    Did you hear about that fraud case here in Dallasw. Some Dr was signing up homeless people for in home nursing care! It was something like 300 million the guy got.

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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Did you hear about that fraud case here in Dallasw. Some Dr was signing up homeless people for in home nursing care! It was something like 300 million the guy got.
    No, I haven't heard about that. The rampant abuse makes me sad. I support a national healthcare plan. I have moral conflicts seeing working families have to bite the bullet or have to come back the next day to get an expensive antibiotic for their child while some sleazy low life on Medicaid gets all their drug addictions funded (they also tend to act like royal assholes in the pharmacy). Not generalizing all on Medicaid, just pointing out where I have my ethical conflicts.
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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No 70+ year old should have any sort of transplant... it is a waste of money and resources.. no wonder the US healthcare industry is so screwed up.. money and influence trumps over logic.
    Damn Americans who don't just assume some one is worthless cuz they are old...
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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Transplant?

    In Cheney's case, shouldn't the correct term be "implant".
    I bet he has made that joke too.
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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'm a donor.
    Too bad you don't have a heart...

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