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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    CBS commentators are not medical professionals.....
    this was a news report, not commentary.

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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    this was a news report, not commentary.
    That doesn't change the facts of anything else I just said. Unless whoever reporting has all of Cheney's health info and medical training then they can't make that kind of decision. The only way they could obtain that information is if Cheney released all of his medical records to the press or if they illegally obtained it. Can you link to the story?
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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    That doesn't change the facts of anything else I just said. Unless whoever reporting has all of Cheney's health info and medical training then they can't make that kind of decision....
    they were reporting the news. obviously, a doctor made the 5-year call.

    but yes, I'll look for a story confirming it.

    edit: it appears the 5-year part, is based on averages. 75% of male transplant recipients make it another 5 years. 50% make it another 10 years.

    though, the averages are lower for folks above 70
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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I can't believe your callous attitude on this. You may feel different when you are 71. Sheeesh!
    Callous because I'm weighing in on reality here? . . . We can't discuss these issues bluntly because someone's old - or because they were the vice president? Why not?
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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    um.....good thing that's not what I did.
    That is exactly what you did. You complained that he got the heart over some one else, which is making a medical decision about people you have never met, sitting at your computer at home.
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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is exactly what you did. You complained that he got the heart over some one else, which is making a medical decision about people you have never met, sitting at your computer at home.
    no,. that is not at all what I did.

    anyways, here's a good discussion on the matter

    Dick Cheney Recovering From Heart Transplant Surgery | ABC News Blogs - Yahoo!

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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Callous because I'm weighing in on reality here? . . . We can't discuss these issues bluntly because someone's old - or because they were the vice president? Why not?
    It is callous to so cavalierly suggest someone should just die because they are 71 yes. My dad hiked to the top of Whitney for his 70th birthday. He is now 80 and still rides his Harley, enjoys his margaritas and going to party's. Who are you to say his life should end because he is old.

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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    It is callous to so cavalierly suggest someone should just die because they are 71 yes. My dad hiked to the top of Whitney for his 70th birthday. He is now 80 and still rides his Harley, enjoys his margaritas and going to party's. Who are you to say his life should end because he is old.
    Who says he was *going* to die?

    He had a known heart condition and likely had been on the list for countless years - living with a condition. . . he could have lived without a transplant for another 10 or 20 for all we know. . . after living for 10 or 20 already.
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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    they were reporting the news. obviously, a doctor made the 5-year call.but yes, I'll look for a story confirming it.edit: it appears the 5-year part, is based on averages. 75% of male transplant recipients make it another 5 years. 50% make it another 10 years.though, the averages are lower for folks above 70
    My transplant center has a 100 percent firstl year survival rate. Five years out i think it is better than half.

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    Re: Dick Cheney receives heart transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Who says he was *going* to die?

    He had a known heart condition and likely had been on the list for countless years - living with a condition. . . he could have lived without a transplant for another 10 or 20 for all we know. . . after living for 10 or 20 already.
    Nobody gets a heart transplant unless it is absolutely necessary. The risk associated with it such as infection and rejection make this a last ditch effort to stay alive.

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