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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Lets try to be truthful....critical, not hypocritical

    Would that have happened to you or would this have happened to Martin aka @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA if either of you were wearing a suit and tie?

    If you dress and act in a manner that is associated with a certain subculture, then you're going to be assumed to be a member of said subculture and treated accordingly
    Doesn't matter. You don't have the right to be jury, judge, and executioner.

    There is a local Hell's Angel club in my city. If I chased a Hell's Angel on foot down an alley in my pickup and foolishly thought to get out and come after him with a gun and finally shot him dead. Guess what I am going to prison. I could clamor about his colors on his back and all the awful tattoos on his arm but I would be toast.

    Really no need to argue this over and over. On April 10th the grand jury is going to make a decision. They will be presented with all the facts and you will just all have to wait and see. If this guy doesn't go to prison I would be shocked. Time will tell.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    In general terms NO...

    As long as something is illegal and people want it, there will be violence and the destruction of society surrounding it.
    I do not understand.... I asked if this incident could have ended without violence, are you saying there was something illegal about it or are you saying that there will be violence as long as something (anything) is illegal because they black market of that something will support it?

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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    And if Trayvon was defending himself that would be justified would it not
    Of course it would.
    But why do you chose to engage in supposition when the evidence does not support it?

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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    how often do YOU call 911?
    He called 911 approximate once a week, which is extremely low for someone actively involved in neighborhood crime watch, particularly in a high crime neigbhorhood with over 400 such calls a year. This would not count times police acted without a 911 call.

    So now you're claim has been reduced to claiming that Zimmerman is a murder because he called 911 too many times in your opinion?

    I have NO doubt if this had happened and Zimmerman had not called 911, you'd be RAGING! "he should have called 911! That he didn't call 911 proves he's a racist murder!"

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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Well, the responsibility for trained civilians is to ALWAYS carry so that they can protect themselves and their families. Police cant be everywhere. They ususally show up just after a crime has been committed.

    No fatal shot from Zim and its quite possible, Martin sends Zim to coma or afterlife.
    Ok, But I am a CWP holder, and in that situation I don't believe I would have killed Martin, but then again, I wouldn't have pursued him after the 911 operator said I didn't have to.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Of course it would.
    But why do you chose to engage in supposition when the evidence does not support it?
    You mean the evidence that show

    Zimmerman was following Trayvon

    that Zimmerman got out of his car to follow Trayvon

    That Zimmerman in following Trayvon got close enough that verbal communication was possible

    What is not clear is who initiated physical contact
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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Of course it would.
    But why do you chose to engage in supposition when the evidence does not support it?
    With two eye-witnesses stating it was Zimmerman ONLY on the ground and that he was still being assaulted ELIMINATES the wanted-theory of Latino Zimmerman haters that Martin was defending himself. He was not defending himself. He was felony aggravated assaulting Zimmerman - unless those 2 eye-witnesses - at least one of which is African-American - are lying.

    Do you think they hate the eye-witnesses as much as they hate Zimmerman?

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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    With two eye-witnesses stating it was Zimmerman ONLY on the ground and that he was still being assaulted ELIMINATES the wanted-theory of Latino Zimmerman haters that Martin was defending himself. He was not defending himself. He was felony aggravated assaulting Zimmerman - unless those 2 eye-witnesses - at least one of which is African-American - are lying.

    Do you think they hate the eye-witnesses as much as they hate Zimmerman?

    Why are you trying so hard to make this a racial thing?


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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    With two eye-witnesses stating it was Zimmerman ONLY on the ground and that he was still being assaulted ELIMINATES the wanted-theory of Latino Zimmerman haters that Martin was defending himself. He was not defending himself. He was felony aggravated assaulting Zimmerman - unless those 2 eye-witnesses - at least one of which is African-American - are lying.

    Do you think they hate the eye-witnesses as much as they hate Zimmerman?
    Joko104

    I joined this forum because I was upset that no one was listening to the factual evidence that you were providing.
    A lot of the members are now aware of it through your efforts.
    And I would be liking alot more of your posts but for one thing, IMHO you are making this even more racial than the other side.
    More so than it already is.
    If you want to have a discussion of the evident bias that is seen by many, shouldn't you start a topic for that and just stick with the basic evidence and not engage in hyperbole?
    Just asking.
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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, But I am a CWP holder, and in that situation I don't believe I would have killed Martin, but then again, I wouldn't have pursued him after the 911 operator said I didn't have to.

    j-mac
    Your common sense guides, you....but specifically on the assault issue, Martin hitting Zim on the ground *repeatedly*

    Zim presumes Martin wants to kill him *WHO WOULDN'T*. Zim did not have the luxury of time to inquire further or to assume otherwise

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