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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Based on the investigators observations and close attention to eyewitness testimony, the conclusion was... no evidence that Zimmerman committed a crime

    Its that simple
    investigators?

    which investigators?

    which detectives went over all the evidence, spoke to all the witnesses?

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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    investigators?

    which investigators?

    which detectives went over all the evidence, spoke to all the witnesses?

    Yeah, the detectives that supposedly let Zimmerman just go on home with a supposed head injury and broken nose? Old saying, 'you can't unscramble broken eggs' so now they better get busy and make the omelet.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

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    take it up with the mods, otherwise I'll point out I have contributed far more info in this thread then you, making your demand rather idiotic.
    You are safe with me. As much as I despise your mentally unstable ass I do not rat people out.










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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Exactly, and let me stress again that, under the Stand Your Ground law, it does not apply if YOU are the one who is escalating the situation. And the 911 recording itself is the smoking gun here. Zimmerman was clearly stalking Martin.
    First, I apologize for posting in the wrong thread. For some odd reason, my box acted as if it had two IP addresses and two different connections to DebatePolitics.com, and somehow, my posts ended up inside a different thread. At any rate - all of these Tyvon/Zimmerman threads, are really discussing the exact same topic anyway, with only minor deviations - so, in retrospect, my post could have been made and fit right in.

    To respond to your reply - you are absolute correct. Stalking is the intentional pursuing of another, whether or not you have the intent to make physical contact. I can stalk you from the moment you leave your garage in the morning on your way to work. I can then stalk you after you park your car and get out and walk into your place of business. However, I never have to physically make contact with you, in order for my previous actions to be considered stalking.

    Not only did Zimmerman stalk Trayvon, but he actually did it while [b]on the phone with 911![b] It does not get anymore clearer than that. There is no question in this case, that Zimmerman, is THE prime suspect in an unsolved murder case. How the man was never taken into custody, and how these Keystone Cops could simply take Zimmerman's word, that he had no prior criminal history, without running a criminal background check, when the man stood over the top of a dead body laying on the ground while holding the smoking gun in his right hand - is beyond all comprehension, whatsoever.

    One way or another, Mr. Zimmerman is coming to Father Justice. There's just too darn much evidence supporting Probable Cause.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Again, a dispatcher's word has NO basis in freaking law- they can't *tell, order, instruct, etc* anyone to do anything

    Do you think all dispatchers are good? lol

    I think for ever good one on a night rotation....3 are god awful
    The dispatcher's order to stop following Martin does not have any basis in law. However, Zimmerman's admittance to the dispatcher that he was following Martin, and his refusal to stop following Martin after the dispatcher told him not to, is proof that he was stalking Martin, and that it was he, not Martin, who escalated the situation. Therefore, neither Stand Your Ground, nor self defense, is any kind of tenable defense in a court of law. Zimmerman is going down.
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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, the detectives that supposedly let Zimmerman just go on home with a supposed head injury and broken nose? Old saying, 'you can't unscramble broken eggs' so now they better get busy and make the omelet.

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    So losing a fight you started is reason enough to shot and kill somebody

    Good to know

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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    So losing a fight you started is reason enough to shot and kill somebody

    Good to know

    To get my kicks I am going to Florida, grab people, start a fight, get a broken nose and shoot them
    I have a dream of taking my gun to Florida, seeing Rush Limbaugh on the street, calling him a slut, then standing my ground when he comes after me. LOL.
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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    So losing a fight you started is reason enough to shot and kill somebody

    Good to know

    To get my kicks I am going to Florida, grab people, start a fight, get a broken nose and shoot them
    No, I think I was unclear....I think the initial police summary of the scene and event was sloppy, and the first contact investigation botched. At least for the moment Zimmerman should have been taken into custody, and questioned further, and a real investigation with all the i's dotted, and t's crossed....Now look what they have....


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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have a dream of taking my gun to Florida, seeing Rush Limbaugh on the street, calling him a slut, then standing my ground when he comes after me. LOL.
    You are mistaken if you think that Limbaugh would even do anything but laugh. But, nice to know that you have such violent fantasies about people you don't like.

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    Re: Trayvon Martin: Special prosecutor appointed in Trayvon Martin shooting case

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    the ridiculous thing is people think he is guilty for not following an "order" to not follow, when the dispatch also told him seconds before he ran to "let me know if he does anything else"
    The ridiculous thing are people who don't seem to have enough common sense see the Probable Cause in arresting and detaining Zimmerman, until a proper homicide investigation could be concluded and a decision to file charges could be reasonably made, given the fact the Zimmerman's weapon had been the only weapon known to have been discharged anywhere near the dead body of Tryvon Martin.

    It seems to me that the level of intelligence brought to this particular case by many in America, is lower than that which one might bring to Duck Throwing Contest in the backwoods of Memphis.


    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    So how do I tell them what else he is doing when he just ran out of site?
    Falsifying evidence in spite of the 911 tape being in the public domain, argues vociferously for the total lack of rational judgement in making the decision to foolishly support the notion that Probable Cause does not exist in this case. You are not telling the truth about the sequence of events that unfolded during the 911 dialogue. Zimmerman, was clearly told by the dispatcher that they did not need him to follow Tryvon - period.

    If Zimmerman's brain is that dysfunctional, to the point where he can't get the neuronal message from his cranium, through his central nervous system and out to his own two feet, in enough time to fully stop his body from leaving his own house, entering the streets, and approaching another human being with a concealed weapon on his person; then I question whether or not Zimmerman should even be allowed to hold a drivers license, let alone a darn Conceal Weapons Permit in a "civilized society" such as ours.

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    he immediately started following - for the first time - to obey that request.
    You are not telling the truth once again. Zimmerman, did not immediately start following because he took the time to stare down Tryvon, while taking the time to give the police a physical description - all of it talking place from Zimmerman's own property. He then indicted himself with his own words, when he told the 911 dispatcher: "They always get away with this...." (paraphrasing).

    Get away with what? Can you answer that question, because the Keystone Cops (apparently) failed to ask Zimmerman what he meant by: "They always get away with this..." (paraphrasing). What was it that Tryvon Martin got away with?


    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    then when he was told he didn't have to, he said "ok".
    You are not telling the truth again. You need to listen to the sequence of events in this 911 call:

    1) Zimmerman calls 911
    2) Zimmerman give description of Tryvon to 911
    3) Zimmerman says "This guys is up to no good, he looks like he's on drugs or something"
    4) Zimmerman continues to give physical description of Tryvon
    5) Zimmerman says "He's just staring, walking around... looking at all the houses"
    6) Zimmerman says "Now, he's just staring at me"
    7) Zimmerman says "That's the clubhouse" (identifying the address for 911)
    8) Zimmerman says "He's got his in his waistband"
    9) Zimmerman says "He's a black male"
    10) Zimmerman says "Something is wrong with him"
    11) Zimmerman says "Yeah, he's coming to check me out"
    12) Zimmerman says "He's got something in his hands, I don't know what his deal is"

    911 Dispatcher interrupts and says: "THERE IS NOTHING ELSE YOU CAN DO HERE, WE (THE POLICE) ARE ON OUR WAY. JUST LET ME KNOW IF HE DOES ANYTHING ELSE."

    13) Zimmerman THEN says "THESE ASSHOLES, THEY ALWAYS GET AWAY..."
    14) Zimmerman's very next words were: HE'S RUNNING..."

    911 Dispatcher ask's Zimmerman, "Which way is he running."

    Now, this is where Zimmerman can be clearly heard as pursuing Tryvon, by running after him.

    15) Zimmerman, struggling to breath then says "Down to the entrance to the neighborhood"

    911 Dispatcher ask's Zimmerman, "Which entrance?"

    16) Zimmerman, struggling to breath again says "The back entrance."

    911 Dispatcher ask's Zimmerman, "Are you following him?"

    17) Zimmerman says "Yes."

    911 Dispatcher tells Zimmerman, "Ok, we don't need you to do that."

    18) Zimmerman says "Ok."


    Seconds later, Trayvon Martin, was heard yelling (according to a Female witness who gave an interview on CNN): "Get off me! Get off...". A shot was heard, and instantly, the yelling stopped (according to the same Female witness on CNN).


    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    show me some real evidence that can prove that is not what happened.
    Really?
    Last edited by Pilots For 911 Truth; 03-25-12 at 12:13 AM.

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