Last edited by mogur15; 03-24-12 at 04:41 PM. Reason: update
Of course it's wrong. If it wasn't wrong, the neighborhood watch program wouldn't urgently warn its members not to do that.
Call the police and report what you've seen.
That's the extent of their role.
Neighborhood Watch Manual
- page 22
Community members only serve as the extra “eyes and ears” of law enforcement. They should report their observations of suspicious activities to law enforcement; however, citizens should never try to take action on those observations. Trained law enforcement should be the only ones ever to take action based on observations of suspicious activities.
Why do you think that is what neighborhood watch members are instructed to do?
Why did Zimmerman ignore that; along with ignoring the 911 operator's advice to the same?
Last edited by Sheik Yerbuti; 03-24-12 at 04:55 PM.
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No one other than the person claiming self-defense has said Zimmerman was first attacked by Martin.
Who, by the way, was within his right to attack Zimmerman if he reasonably believed the stranger following him in the dark for no apparent reason, first by car, then by foot, posed an imminent threat to him.
Provided Quotes are not speculation.
The police report is not speculation.
The quotes from the on scene eye-witness is not speculation.
Quotes from the 911 calls are not speculation.
Quotes from Trayvons girlfriend are not speculation.
This is the known evidence.
That is what we have.
Do we need to go over each and every one again for their establishment?
I have been trying to avoid all supposition and speculation because of where it leads.
And for the most part, do so.
But I have at times, because apparently, at this forum, you have to.
Have you ever heard of evidence not being admitted by the Judge? It was still evidence, it just not able to be admitted at trial for specific reasons.
But if you prefer we can use the term 'information', but that term is what is usually used for charging a person.
But, it isn't true.
But it isn't entirely accurate.
More accurately stated, was that Zimmerman, acting in the capacity of NW followed a person who he thought was suspicious, to keep him under observation until the police who he called arrived.
As a side note, Zimmerman at one point must have stop following Zimmerman. According to the evidence, Zimmerman was on his way back to his truck. That would mean he wasn't following him doesn't it?
The evidence states that Trayvon confronted Zimmerman first with a question. First contact.
Zimmerman's statement says Trayvon attacked from behind. Again, first contact.
But that is not the known evidence available to us is it?
And that is what we are talking about here. The evidence as known by us. The known evidence.
Not known to them, but known to us.
That is part of the evidence we are discussing, right?
The evidence that they have, and we do not, was not enough to bring charges.
That is the evidence we have.
Please tell me what you do not understand about that?
It is the procedure to be followed by those who volunteer for the service. They take a training course by local law enforcement, it's that important that these procedures be followed in order to avert what occurred here.
IMO, once Zimmerman accepted his role as a neighborhood watch and decided to not only violate their procedures, but the advice of the 911 dispatcher, he became negligent in his duties and that negligence was one of, if not the most, contributing factors in an unarmed teenager heading back to where he was staying after going to 7-11 to buy some candy.
I hope they get Zimmerman, at the very least, for negligent homicide.