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    Re: Marine faces dismissal for anti-Obama Facebook posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    thank you for showing how you LIED about my comment.

    I accused him of threatening mutiny. YOU however, said that I accused him of mutiny.

    take some time to learn the difference.

    Read the link, it covers this. You fail yet again.
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    Re: Marine faces dismissal for anti-Obama Facebook posts

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    What my problem is, is the government suppression of freedom of speech. It is wrong....
    suppressing speech is one thing.

    prosecuting active duty soldiers for calling for mutiny, is another story.

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    Re: Marine faces dismissal for anti-Obama Facebook posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    suppressing speech is one thing.

    prosecuting active duty soldiers for calling for mutiny, is another story.
    I have stated multiple times I agree that he is wrong to threaten or encourage mutiny or not following orders. I never said I support everything he has said or done. But this story brings up the topic of military free speech.

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    Re: Marine faces dismissal for anti-Obama Facebook posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    suppressing speech is one thing.

    prosecuting active duty soldiers for calling for mutiny, is another story.



    And you do it again, the punishment for article 94 is up to "death". Do you really want to see this soldier killed over a facebook page? damn, that's harsh.
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    Re: Marine faces dismissal for anti-Obama Facebook posts

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I have stated multiple times I agree that he is wrong to threaten or encourage mutiny or not following orders. I never said I support everything he has said or done. But this story brings up the topic of military free speech.

    that's an oxymoron.
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    Re: Marine faces dismissal for anti-Obama Facebook posts

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    ...Do you really want to see this soldier killed over a facebook page?....
    the question is: why do YOU want to see this soldier killed over a Facebook page?

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    Re: Marine faces dismissal for anti-Obama Facebook posts

    YOu simply don't understand the nature of military service and the absolute danger that arises if generals or privates have the right to publicly disagree with their superiors. You simply cannot have a functioning military if that is the case.

    Let me say it again. The military is not a democracy and the rules of a democracy do not apply. If you don't like the rules, don't join.

    I'm not twisting what you are saying at all. You are stating that anybody in the military ought to be able to question and or defy civilian leadership whenever they choose. You are wrong.

    And no, my point is not that 'no one should question a government policy' and you know it. My point is that no one on active military service should publicly question a government policy'. If you are in the military and you don't like what the government is doing, then resign or wait until your service is over. That's what honorable men do.

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    Re: Marine faces dismissal for anti-Obama Facebook posts

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Read the link, it covers this. You fail yet again.
    you really shouldn't accuse others of "fails", my friend.
    Last edited by Thunder; 03-22-12 at 01:32 PM.

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    Re: Marine faces dismissal for anti-Obama Facebook posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the question is: why do YOU want to see this soldier killed over a Facebook page?


    I don't. you fail, yet again....


    He did not attempt, nor did he commit "mutiny" as you so hysterically claimed. In fact:


    " A Marine sergeant who started a Facebook group that is openly critical of President Obama and posted comments saying he will not follow the unlawful orders of the commander in chief is facing possible dismissal from the Corps."



    Note the term "Unlawful orders", that's a key term, One can say and one's duty is to not follow unlawful orders, and if you do follow unlawful orders you too can be prosecuted. I refused orders twice, I was right to do so, because wait for it, they were unlawful. If that's all he said on his website, he would be fine, as that is not illegal, however if he said that Obama's orders were all illegal, he'll get a dishcarge at worse, an article 15 at best....

    none of this hysterical nonsense of mutiny you keep screeching.
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    Re: Marine faces dismissal for anti-Obama Facebook posts

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    ...He did not attempt, nor did he commit "mutiny" as you so hysterically claimed.....
    and you accuse ME...of failing again.



    Rev, I can't believe you're STILL lying about my comments.

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