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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Segregation is not at issue here. Will homosexuals have civil unions in separate homosexual only courthouses? Hell, they can even use the same form from NH, just check off one box for civil union and one for marriage. Any church that wishes to marry them can marry both SS couples and opposite sex couples, they would not be required by government to have two separate places for marriage.

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    No. That isnt the point though. Homosexuals will have an entirely separate institution then heterosexuals. Thats unconstitutional.

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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    ...and if they can exercise that right anywhere anyplace anytime they want to...then what, exactly is the issue?


    ...and what the hell is so important about calling it marriage, since marriage, up to this point, did not include SS couples? Now we get to the heart of the matter. It never was about equal treatment, it was about co-opting the word. Thanks for showing all your cards.



    Since you advocate SSM, I figured you would want to play Gay Gordons



    Well duh.

    The issue is they are creating a separate right which makes it unequal. So yes it is about equality under the law.

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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    So why, if it's only a name fight, isn't the rights and protections of civil unions more important? If a compromise is reached where one side gets the rights and protections they claim they want and the other side gets to keep the name...why is that not good enough? I've already disproven that segregation is not the issue.
    First off segregation is the issue, it's pretty evident, secondly the people against SSM have proven time and time again that they do not want to give the same rights, it is just an argument to stop SSM from becoming law. And one the anti side likes because it hides the bigotry behind their motivation. Also benefits as marriage, in fact civil unions are not marriage, and do not have as much legal power, nor precedence as marriage does. It's about the rights that marriage brings with it, and the only way to get that is to get marriage.
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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

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    Homosexuals will have an entirely separate institution then heterosexuals.
    If there is no difference in the law and how it applies to two sets of people, it is not discriminatory. Again, this has zero to to with gay only toilets and lunch counters. SS couples will be able to go and do anything and everything that an OS couple can and in the same places. The ONLY issue is the word. So I wonder, again, it it's really about equality.
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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

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    First off segregation is the issue, it's pretty evident, secondly the people against SSM have proven time and time again that they do not want to give the same rights, it is just an argument to stop SSM from becoming law. And one the anti side likes because it hides the bigotry behind their motivation. Also benefits as marriage, in fact civil unions are not marriage, and do not have as much legal power, nor precedence as marriage does. It's about the rights that marriage brings with it, and the only way to get that is to get marriage.
    If a civil union as proposed by the particular state is any way deficient compared to marriage, then you have a point. Can you name a state where their proposal for civil unions is deficient?
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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    If there is no difference in the law and how it applies to two sets of people, it is not discriminatory. Again, this has zero to to with gay only toilets and lunch counters. SS couples will be able to go and do anything and everything that an OS couple can and in the same places. The ONLY issue is the word. So I wonder, again, it it's really about equality.
    Why is it such a problem if it's just called marriage? Do you have something wrong with gay couples being called married?
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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    If a civil union as proposed by the particular state is any way deficient compared to marriage, then you have a point. Can you name a state where their proposal for civil unions is deficient?
    By name it is deficient, there are certain rights which only pertain to marriage. Marriage is a legal institution, and denying it to a certain member of the populace based solely on the sex of the two people involved is wrong. End of discussion.
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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Improper use of a male's apparatus.

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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

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    Improper use of a male's apparatus.
    i take it you are also against oral sex and hand jobs?

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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

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    i take it you are also against oral sex and hand jobs?
    Yeah, definitively.

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